Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

Exposing major deceits by guru Sathya Sai Baba in India, incl. murders cover-up & widely alleged sexual abuse

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Sex scandal in Indian media – Nityananda and forerunners

Posted by robertpriddy on March 6, 2010

Indian commentators, such as the presenter at IBN are finally asking why it is that so many Indian gurus have been convicted of adharmic (i.e. unrighteous) activities. The latest scandal, whatever the eventual outcome, has brought forth more allegations of Nityananda abusing women sexually, of murder attempts and an unexplained death at his ashram.

as from One India March 6, 2010.

For example, One India reported this (see on right): Had not the Nityananda sex video caused a major uproar across the internet, the Indian news media would most probably have played down or ignored the matter, for this is what the Indian news media have done for years now in the case of the influential and powerful Sathya Sai Baba, for – with very few honourable exceptions – they no longer take any notice of continuing and fresh allegations of Sai Baba’s sexual molestation of young men and boys.

Human rights violations from sex, rape, pedophilia, murder to financial scams are increasingly reported alleged in connection with Indian swamis and/or so-called ‘godmen’. Bupendra Chowbey on IBN Live.in.com hosts a discussion on these issues in a 4-part video on ‘Sex, sleaze and swamis’. He said: “The fundamental question is why has there been such a huge increase in cases related to the holy men in our country.”

from IBNLive.com debate screen

He compares aspects of the Nityananda case with those of Chandra Swami, Sathya Sai Baba, Pilot Baba, and other religious leaders and asks if blind faith in religion is the reason for godmen becoming conmen and whether the sexploits of swamis have permanently damaged the image of holy men in India. While reactions to the revelations about Nityananda led to physical damage to his ashram, the debaters were loath to blame religion as such but rather the gullibility of people who do not think for themselves.

Coming on the heels of the N.D. Tiwari sex scandal [who Sathya Sai Baba endorsed], the Nityananda revelations have further engaged Indian journalists into thinking what is wrong with gurus, even with Hinduism and religion itself (see Star Of Mysore article)

CLICK ON IMAGE for IBN Live.com debate on video

Self-declared ‘spiritual masters’ claiming they lead people to bliss and realization, can do miracles, healings and much else prove to be in many cases in recent decades to have been involved variously in sexual abuse, pedophilia, murder – not to mention fraud on a mega scale. Some of the more notable include Swami Premananda (Tiruvannamalai), Bhagwan Rajneesh (Osho), Swami Muktananda, Swami Rama, Swami Rameshwaranand Giriji Maharaj, Gyatri Swami, Balayogi Premvarni, Gowrishankara Swami, Swami Shyam, The Phalgat (of Kerala), Swami Bhimanand… the list could actually be extended into the scores. None are so widely and credibly accused of pedophilia, male sex abuses, involvement in murders, fraud and political cover-up than Sathya Sai Baba (see here)

See also:
Very latest Sathya Sai Baba sex molestation testimony
and The Dark Underside of some prominent Hindu gurus

 

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Sathya Sai Baba – Good and Evil

Posted by robertpriddy on July 13, 2009

In a public discourse in January 1995 (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol.28 new ed., p.1), Sathya Sai Baba said: “The good and evil in the world are expressions of Divine consciousness. Man should not be misled by these expressions. Behind all the various actions of the actors, the Divine Director is at work.”

Since Sathya Sai Baba has often proclaimed for himself that divine directorship, this good or evil is an expression of Sathya Sai Baba’ divine consciousness? This is virtually a tacit admission by Sai Baba that he does things humans regard as evil. He has also said:
“The ‘bad’ too is in fact ‘good’ in reverse. It serves to teach what has to be avoided. It would not be ‘bad’ for all time; it is ever short-lived. Neither ‘good’ nor ‘bad’ can be pronounced as ‘absolutely unrelieved’ states. Knowledge (vidya) reveals and makes clear that ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are only the reactions caused by the failings and feelings of the mind of man.” (Vidya Vahini, p. 22.)

This is a far-reaching assertion, one which can lead to the total confusion of values with anti-values and vice-versa. when acting in the real world. As the divine director, therefore, could not

This implies that the self-proclaimed “embodied Divinity” can just as well do evil as good, since it makes no difference ‘ultimately’ and from his viewpoint. This makes a complete mockery of most of his other statements about how he, the avatar, is only pure love, enacts nothing but good, that everything is good from God’s viewpoint and so on. If good and bad are “only failings and feelings of the mind of man” then what Sai Baba promotes as the five universal human values at the core of religion are utterly superfluous. He also says those values are divine in origin, which means they are not what the world regards to be human values. In either case he claims them to be subjective failings and feelings.

Why have a good example? The avatar, who usurps Mahatma Gandhi’s immortal words (as inscribed on the base of his statue in Old Delhi Gandhi Museum) to claim ‘My Life is My Message’  sets himself up as the prime example of righteousness and goodness. He holds that he exceeds all human beings in purity, selfless desirelessness and truthfulness. Yet he reveals that this is all a fraud… he recognises neither good nor bad as having any relevance in reality.

What is perhaps most shocking about the evidence that has emerged about Sathya Sai Baba ‘s active involvement in unjust and illegal matters, from the murders’ cover-up to the weighty evidence of his homosexual and pedophile activities, is the huge gap this opens between his words and reported actions. There is no other word but wilful deception on a grand scale for these discrepancies.

That a self-proclaimed holy avatar can condone the unjust repression of truth and justice and even allegedly carry out sexual acts of a sort that the Pope at long last openly and forcible condemned as evil requires a thoroughgoing reevaluation by followers of what this person actually represents.

Sai Baba has said, for example, “God assumes a role in the dharma of the world in human form. He has to behave as a human being only. This should be clearly understood by all.” (Sathya Sai Speaks, Vol. 26 new ed. p. 229f).
Does this indicate that he has to have human failings too? Well, if his role is not one of the purest dharma (i.e. ‘uprightness’), then the answer must be a resounding ‘No!’ How can serious self-contradictions, lies, broken promises, cover-up, and complete unaccountability be reconciled to dharma?

Anyone who holds, therefore, that Sathya Sai Baba can carry out any kind of sexually-oriented interference or direct abuse on boys and young men against their expectations and despite their wishes without it affecting his purity or his truthfulness is also in denial of Sathya Sai Baba ‘s own words, as well as common sense and ordinary decency as these are understood in civilized and morally-enlightened society. Such is a most terrible perversion of spirituality! There are those in the Sai movement who accept him as a sexual abuser.

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World leaders and Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on May 28, 2009

King & Queen blessed but soon to be shot down by their son

King & Queen blessed but soon to be shot down by their son

GyanendraSathya Sai Baba welcomes all important and rich persons, especially Presidents, Prime Ministers and royalty, always giving them full priority over all those who work selflessly for him, however spiritual they may be. For example, the despotic rulers, the super-rich King & Queen of Nepal, were blessed by Sathya Sai Baba as seen in the photo from Sanathana Sarathi (March 1999). They were foully murdered by their own son in 2001! So much for the validity of Sai Baba’s blessings and his guarantee to all who are devoted to him ‘Why Fear When I Am Here?’

Rationalizing devotees will excuse Sai Baba on the grounds that “only He knows what is best for anyone” and he says that one must face death without fear and so in and on. But this only shows how slippery the words of Sai Baba invariably are! That Sai Baba immediately gave such a despot his time and praises will not be misinterpreted by independent-minded observers. That King Gjanendra was hailed as the incarnation of Vishnu – which Sai Baba also claims for himself – is another bizarre aspect of the matter.

See also  Ex-king Gyanendra of Nepal & Sathya Sai Baba

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Sathya Sai Baba and the Dalai Lama

Posted by robertpriddy on May 11, 2009

Dalai Lama bows deeply

Dalai Lama bows deeply

The Dalai Lama is known world-wide for his courage and often illumining and largely acceptable teachings, but above all for his life, which is truly a message of non-violence and standing for the truth and what is right. His righteous (dharmic) life has been in strict adherence to non-violence, seen in all he has done since his inauguration, and through the tremendously difficult decades through which it has been incumbent on him to try to protect and better his people. He makes himself as accessible as possible to people without them having to kow-tow, while he is open to questions, answers directly and frankly and in intelligible, accurate ways. If one bows to him, he returns the bow and bows more deeply! It would be fitting for Sai Baba to bow to the Dalai Lama, but he bows to no one… he is too high and mighty for that! Yet some of his most deluded followers – like N. Kasturi and V. Balu – once wrote about him as having great humility!

How does Sathya Sai Baba compare with the Dalai Lama?
Sai Baba purposely keeps everyone waiting, many of them almost endlessly, whoever they are. He hardly ever gives a straight answer to any honest question, if any at all, and he is known to everyone without exception not to be able to stand the slightest bit of criticism from anyone. Yet he full of criticism of others – in general in many of his discourses but also personally in interviews where he regularly ridicules people to get laughs. The only person in recent decades who could sometimes question him at all freely was my very good friend, V.K. Narasimhan…who helped Sai Baba by editing out the gaffes from the recorded discourses! Due to his reputation and contacts, Narasimhan was an intermediary bringing many top Indian politicians he had long known to the ashram by endorsing Sai Baba as a social reformer. Sathya Sai Baba is certainly not revered and respected worldwide by the vast numbers of people and governments as is the Dalai Lama.

Sai authorities desperate to get Dalai Lama to endorse Sai Baba, Sathya Sai Baba is certainly not revered and respected worldwide by the vast numbers of people and governments as is the Dalai Lama, nor is he known to most of the world, like the Dalai Lama.  Sai Baba supporters have tried to create the illusion that the Dalai Lama somehow endorses Sai Baba (which he NEVER has done), simply because he once  gave a lecture at the Sathya Sai International Centre in Delhi (Jan. 3, 2004), where he generously mentioned Sai Baba just once as follows:“I am happy to see that Sathya Sai Baba has said that his mission is not to convert people to other traditions. He would like a Buddhist to be a better Buddhist, a Muslim to be a better Muslim and a Hindu to be a better Hindu." That was all!  The Director of the Centre where the Dalai Lama spoke, Dr. Karan Singh, coupled the names of Dalai Lama and Sathya Sai Baba in his address. However, the Dalai Lama emphasised that those of the Buddhist faith’ should stick to Buddhism, and Muslims to their faith, both of which religions firmly and totally reject the possibility of anyone being God Incarnate. Mahayana Buddhism rejects the existence of a God Creator.  This seems one good reason why – in his self-proclaimed Godhood as World Saviour and Avatar – Sai Baba has never so much as mentioned the Dalai Lama!

Sai Baba sweepingly berates just about everyone in the world at regular intervals from his platform but the Dalai Lama never uses such language, even about the despotic and mendacious Chinese government.

Sathya Sai Baba hides in fear while the Dalai Lama does not: The Dalai Lama has real humility and enormous courage – putting himself in the front line – without protection from any troops or gunmen of his own  – against one of the worst regimes in history. By comparison, Sai Baba has had 20 full-time plain-clothes security people since about 1994 (costing well over Rs. 200,000 a month by now. And who do you think pays?). These spies mingle undercover in the crowds. V.K. Narasimhan gave me the facts about this already in 1996. Is this for the sake of the devotees or Sai Baba? It is no more for devotees than are the metal detectors, the intensive body searches of men and women going to view Sai Baba (darshan) or the fact that Sai Baba hides daily and at night in a fortress-built apartment palace. He is guarded by additional Israel-trained commandos visibly armed with automatic weapons, he travels in a bomb-proof vehicle. No one can get into Sai Baba’s presence with the tiniest of items that could conceivably be used as any kind of weapon. Meanwhile, the Dalai Lama has convincingly lived non-violence in all he does (not just in constant torrents of repetitive words as does Sai Baba) and has never had to conceal himself nearby in a room in his own ashram while four close attendants were assassinated with his tacit and later public approval, or condone subsequent cover-ups and quashing of all legal redress to the victims’ families.

Sai Baba claims that his word is absolute law in all things – whose will is always done by mega-obsequious officials in the ashram – would not even risk answering any questions about the murders, (just reread Sai Baba’s devious, insubstantial Gurupurnima discourse in 1993 about related details!). Also this “ever-tranquil, totally unaffected” Sai Baba dropped his guard and showed everyone his hidden hand in his Xmas 2000 discourse… namely, that by damning his critics to constant rebirths in many shameful lives, he is not compassionate or loving of everyone (as he has always claimed before and since, even of his detractors). More recently, he has damned various Indian newspaper editors to the same fate. Has the Dalai Lama ever damned or threatened anyone like that? The answer is a resounding ‘No!’

The Dalai Lama, however, is never patronising nor does he harangue the whole world for being impure and under the sway of inhuman and demonic forces, as does Sai Baba constantly. Sai Baba talks down to people from a position of claimed eminence. He constantly points to his own works and service and hardly ever attributes any credit to anyone else, boasting most embarrassingly about his achievements: i.e. none do 1000th of what he does, he announced at Christmas 2000. Others do all the work and provide the funds for all to which he so selflessly lends ‘His Precious Name’. He celebrates himself and his birthdays like no other event, claiming it is the devotees who want it. But the fact is, known to those who speak with frank ashramites, that almost only he thrives on it; most residents dread it. It is Sai Baba’s annual super self-praise event at Prashanti Nilayam, where he rides on in his bizarre silver-encrusted motorised chariot-cum-jeep. All that matters is numbers and show!

See 16 points of comparison between the Dalai Lama and Sathya Sai Baba

Above I compared the words and actions of Sathya Sai Baba with those of the Dalai Lama, showing how there was a world of difference between the dharma practised by the Dalai Lama and the deceptive words and action of Sai Baba. I also noted that the Dalai Lama had never endorsed Sathya Sai Baba in anything he had said. However, Chris Dokter pointed out in a comment on that blog, that this was not entirely true:-

Chris Dokter of The Netherlands commented.:-
“Alas, Robert, though I heartily agree with the gist of your post, I think it cannot go unmentioned here that the Dalai Lama DID in fact give some sort of endorsement to Sathya Sai Baba in the end. Posthumously, on April 25 2011, he issued an official message of condolence, which was published in the Tibetan Sun e.g. (See this link: http://www.tibetsun.com/archive/2011/04/25/dalai-lama-mourns-passing-away-of-sai-baba/), and also on the Dalai Lama’s homepage. It attracted international attention. This is what was stated by the Dalai Lama: “I am saddened by the passing away of Sri Sathya Sai Baba, the respected spiritual leader. I would like to convey my condolences and prayers to all the followers, devotees and admirers of the late spiritual leader.”
I must say I was quite taken aback by this message.”

Robert replied:-
Hi Chris! Thanks for the correction. I did not know that. It is extremely disappointing… surely the Dalai Lama knew Sai Baba’s megalomaniacal claims (Creator of the Universe etc. ad. inf.) and would surely NEVER be able to support them, being a Buddhist. I suspect that, dependent as the Dalai Lama and his community in India are on the authorities, he may have been pressured into the statement one way or another. He never said anything like that once throughout the life of Sathya Sai Baba… which fact I consider speaks louder than words, really.

Chris Dokter  replied: “I agree with your take on it, Robert. Still, I wish the Dalai Lama would have refrained from any comment on SB ‘kicking the bucket’. More, I would have liked to have seen a moral, if controversial stance of him if he felt compelled to comment at all.”

Kristina Jure commented: Having read the comment posted by Chrisdokter, I would like to share my experience with Buddhists. In 2009 January I have visited one of the biggest Buddhist monasteries in India in Karnataka. There are 5000 monks in this city of monastic buildings with the residence for Dalai Lama and I was accomodated as a tourist by one small community inside the monastery and given the translator to walk around and take pictures, also invited to watch the debates and their rituals and rites. The most impressive experience for me as the former devotee of SSB was the way they reacted to my message that I actually came to them from Prashanthi Nilayam. They started smiling at each other and I could feel they felt sorry for me. I’ve asked the translator whether Buddhists believe that Swami is the creator of the Universe and he replied with the smile that “certainly not”. Nobody in fact believed him at all. And this official statement made by Dalai Lama could be interpreted as his compassion to those who were in suffering, but not as his official acknowledgment of the self-styled avatar, I assume. The reaction of all the monks to the messages by SSB was quite ironic, I should say, and their position was formed by Dalai Lama himself because they were practising absolute respect and obedience to him.

Chris Dokter  replied: Dear Kristina Jure. Though I agree the Dalai Lama’s statement can be seen as compassionate towards all those who were grief stricken, I am still troubled by the very fact that he chose to comment at all. I personally have little doubt the Dalai Lama would have laughed at the silly claims by Sai Baba, but it remains a fact that his message was published widely, and was on the whole interpreted as a supportive message by the international press, the Indian media and the SSB Organisation.
Compassion is good. Nothing wrong with it. But timing is everything when you are a public figure. And compassion with followers is one thing. But why did the Dalai Lama not openly show his compassion for all the victims of Sai Baba even once, the ex-followers? Does not compassion need courage in order to be balanced and not give offence? Or do you think the Dalai Lama was wholly ignorant of all the scandal and 
politics surrounding Sathya Sai Baba during the last decades?

Robert comments: It remains to be said that the comparisons I made between DL and SB stand well. In Gandhi’s own words (used on his tomb as his epitaph), namely “My Life in My Message” (later misappropriated by Sathya Sai Baba for himself and without acknowledgement) the Dalai Lama stands forth as exemplary, while Sathya Sai Baba’s actions and words were quite another story! The Dalai Lama respected the dead and, no doubt, the feelings of loss of SB devotees by his brief greeting, and – humble as he is – he was evidently no better informed about Sathya Sai Baba’s real life than are the majority of his remaining supporters, which includes the current Prime Minister and President and so on.

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Sathya Sai Baba blames everything on others, nothing on himself

Posted by robertpriddy on May 7, 2009

The most unreasonable of all excuses – to avert all blame from oneself for anything one does – is to claim that one is the Divine Godhead – pure, infallible and entirely benevolent. This is exactly what Sathya Sai Baba does, and he constantly repeats this theme. He is ever fault-finding and criticising others, including all his devotees.

They are held to be the sole cause of all their sufferings and difficulties in life. The actions of mankind are the only cause of everything bad that happens in the world – even earthquakes, tsunamis and other natural phenomena. People are particularly culpable if they do not believe in God or try to see and experience God. It has nothing to do with God or Sai Baba, who masquerades as the Deity above all Deities. Altogether, it is incredible that anyone can accept this full doctrine – I was never able to accept the above excuses… it was always a flaw in his teaching which I would overlook because of the many things I once thought positive about him.

In his discourse in Kodaikanal on 18th May 2003, (Sanathana Sarathi July 2003), Sai Baba said:

“Who is God? Does He really exist? Many people are obsessed by such doubts. It is foolish to entertain such doubts. God is present in all. (….) There is no scope for doubt in this regard. You cannot deny the existence of a person who is standing right in front of you. Likewise, you cannot deny the existence of all-pervasive God.” [ibid p. 194]

Not true! I can easily deny the existence of all-pervasive God. whoever may be standing in front of me. I quite simply do not believe it. The implication was obvious – Sathya Sai Baba was standing in front of his captive, indoctrinated audience, who overwhelmingly believed him to be God (even though there are great differences in interpretation of what ‘God” means). The world at large would never accept his pseudo-logic… he seems to forget anyone but those who worship him.

” God exists for those who think He exists. He does not exist for those who deny Him.”

So God’s existence depends on us, and if we think God doesn’t exist, we in a way cheat him out of his existence. This is a clear – if unwitting – admission that Sai Baba thinks God’s existence is simply a subjective belief! [ibid p.195]

“The fundamental principle of all names and forms is within you. All that you see in the external world is only a reaction, reflection and resound of the fundamental principle. (….) You suffer from self-created delusion. In this manner, you deceive yourself. You betray yourself. Your feelings are responsible for this. Your doubts are the cause of this.”

Sathya Sai Baba is in the external world – so is this perception caused by our feelings and doubts – and so is nothing but a “self-created delusion”? However one interprets this, it amounts to the quite insane and totally unhelpful theory that the entire universe is a delusion and whatever is supposedly real (‘God’) is an invisible, unknowable. To lay all the responsibility at the
door of the devotee or the critic for creating a delusion (i. e. the universe) is beyond absurdity. Yet Sathya Sai Baba
has constantly claimed he created the universe – thus showing himself responsible for any or all the delusion. This is irrational megalomania taken to psychopathic extremes.

“…man should be totally free from doubts.He should be firm and steady. But today man is filled with doubts. Where do doubts come from? They arise out of his own imagination.” – “You see God day in and day out…. Yet you think that you have not seen God. How foolish it looks. You think they are mere external forms. In fact, what you see outside is the reflection of your inner being. You are forgetting the reality and getting deluded by the reaction, reflection and resound.” [ibid p.196]

In claiming God is everywhere, in everyone, and we are all God, Sai Baba promotes a failed and logically circular “spiritual teaching” – one which is bolstered by such a mass of inconsistent belief-based and contra-rational and contra-factual thinking – that some people without strong intellectual discrimination, experience and knowledge are quite easily taken in by it.

For a more thorough explanation of the complete falsity of this pantheistic and solipsist confusion, see here.

Amusing aside: According to his teaching, Sai Baba’s behaviour is a reflection of our own inner being. This is possibly why some office bearers in the Sai Org. accuse anyone who claims to have been sexually abused by Sai Baba to be sexual abusers
themselves.
It is certain that critics who find complete credibility in most of the allegations are accused of ‘looking through dirty glasses’ because Sai Baba says one should always view everything and everyone through rose-tinted glasses,especially himself (claiming that he is totally pure!)

Final laughing points:-

“There is love in every man but he is diverting it towards his wife, children, friends, relatives and worldly possessions,” [ibid p.199] Sathya Sai Baba – posing as God incarnate – craves the love we have for our dearest and for each other!

“All of you are the very forms of God. That is why you have gathered here. As there is divinity in you, you have developed love towards this Divine Form.”Since there is supposedly the very same divinity in everyone, why isn’t everyone in the world trying to visit him? However, as usual, Sai Baba has contradicted his axiom that there is a “Divine spark’ in everyone, by naming his critics as demons, without any divine spark!”… a hard-hearted person cannot be called a spark of Divinity; he is verily a demon.[p. 323, Sanathana Sarathi, November 2002] Sathya Sai Baba actually believes in black magic demons, quite literally, as many of his talks make clear – not least those on the demons in the Ramayana and other Hindu scriptures .

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Dr.G. Venkataraman – physicist ‘explains’ Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on September 24, 2008

It seems that this retired physicist G. Venkataraman had been tempted to take upon himself the mantle of philosopher, without having had the requisite training or having worked analytically on the main philosophies and theologies of the world.Not only that, he has donned the role of a spiritual adviser working directly on behalf of God Almighty, Creator of the Universe. Why then, I ask myself, was he wearing such a long face and showed such lack of animation when I met him on two occasions together with V.K. Narasimhan.

Prof. G. Venkataraman wrote a article called ‘God, the Avathar and the Intellectual’ (see www.saibaba.ws/articles2/god_avathar_intellectual.htm
) in which he juxtaposes photos of Einstein, Stephen Hawking with Sathya Sai Baba, Mahatma Gandhi, Adi Shankara, Ramana Maharshi, Shirdi Baba, Lord Rama and the Scottish self-styled ‘religious expert’ writer Bill Aitken. This tabloidal hodge-podge is supposed to be an intelligent article… but it tries to justify – by photographic and general association – the flights of fancy of an under-educated villager like Sathya Sai Baba with the greatest scientists of the modern era (excluding Bill Aitken, an itinerant travel writer published only in India). Einstein and Hawking would most assuredly never have supported the ’teachings’ of any of these solipsistic speculators like Maharshi and Shankara, or deities like Rama, let alone miracle men like Shirdi Sai Baba and the would-be usurper of his local fame and sleight-of-hand merchant, Sathya Sai Baba. So much for Venkataraman’s pathetic idea of what constitutes ‘intellectuality’!
A simple thought experiment for Venkataraman, who believes in ‘eternal entities’ of various kinds. Does the word ‘green’ refer to greenness independent of anything that is or can be thought of as green – or be called green? In other words, is there an universal green, an absolute, eternal ‘green’? The same goes for love… can it exist independently of any instance of a feeling or act which may be rightly called ‘loving’? To say it can is to believe in the independent, non-physical existence of universals. If one thinks so, then one is surely green as a philosopher – still in the era of Plato, and – as a physicist – one is in denial of the very basis of all physics, the principle of the universal conservation of energy.

Venkataraman writes:- Ananthamurthy, I must admit, does not cast aspersions nor sling mud. But he does not hesitate to question, disapprove and dismiss without any semblance, I regret to say, of deep analysis. This of course is quite typical of many intellectuals when it comes to Spiritual matters. Before I come to intellectuals and the problems many of them have in accepting God, I should mention that Ananthamurthy, while dismissing Swami, does not appear to reject Spirituality. On the contrary, he accepts and admires a host of evolved souls like Kabir, Basava, Tukaram, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Ramana Maharishi. However, he is not sure where to fit in Swami in all this. He is aware that people flock to Swami in hundreds of thousands but dismisses all that with the remark, “But that magnetism is not spiritual”. He adds, “Spiritualism requires a kind of mind like Jiddu Krishnamurthy. I could argue with him. With Sai Baba, either you believe him or you don’t.”
These days, most intellectuals tend to be agnostic at best and atheist at worst; often it is the latter. Dazzled by the achievements of man in so many dimensions, they are unable to accept God because they are confronted with so many questions for which they do not have answers.
Comment: Contrariwise, Venkataraman is dazzled by Sathya Sai Baba’s deceits and legerdemain into believing there are so many questions which he cannot answer, but Sai Baba can! Atheists like Dawkins are not dazzled, but dazzling in their intellectual achievements (in genetics the popular book ‘The Selfish Gene’ is beyond the grasp of amateur philosopher Venkataraman, let alone Dawkins’ far, far more technical and empirical scientific papers.

Venkarataman: “Having said this, I must point out that there have been and there still are many intellectuals [possibly a minority] who do believe in God, scientists included. Einstein was a famous example. He freely acknowledged that he believed in a Superior Being although his God was not One who sat in judgment, inflicted punishment and all that.”
Comment: Most definitely a minority and a very small one, according to all surveys in recent decades.

Venkarataman: “Talking of scientists, I must not forget to mention late Abdus Salam of Pakistan, who won the Nobel Prize for his incisive work on electro-weak unification. …. A Westerner once asked Salam, “How come you, a scientist, believe in God?” Salam gave a terse reply, “Science is all about the outer world. God is all about the Inner world. Where is the contradiction?”

Comment: The contradiction which escaped the Nobel Prize winner is known to practically all other Nobel Prize winners, it lies in the total rejection of science of any inner world independent of physical causation. Such an ‘inner world’ is simply composed of speculation, the store of mental engrammata including figments of the imagination, misconceptions, false beliefs, superstitions and more. It is all of the same epistemological status as Robert M Price pointed out in ‘Christ A Fiction’: “You ask me how I know he lives?” asks the revival chorus. “He lives within my heart.” Exactly! A figment.

Venkataraman states that he likes best the definition of God given by Gandhi: Gandhi said, “He is no God who merely satisfies the intellect. God to be God must rule the Heart and transforms the senses. He is LOVE.” Now I ask you. Does not this definition fit Swami like a glove?”
Comment: Sathya Sai Baba certainly is no God who can satisfy the intellect, for a start. His supposed ‘Love’ is in question, as there are many who have been deeply offended by him, who have been swindled of larges sums of money by him, who have worked tirelessly for him for decades but been as if ‘cast into the outer darkness’ by him! He has called his critics ‘demons’ and worse. Is THAT love and compassion?
Many of his followers’ hearts are far from being ‘ruled’ by him, let alone his critics and the rest of the world. He does not transform anyone’s sense but deceives the senses with legerdemain and cause many people to misinterpret the evidence of their senses to a high degree.

Venkataraman quotes the young Sai Baba speaking before the Raja of Venkatagiri from around 1950:-

Swami explained: “The saints and sages you are referring to are humans who were in the process of evolving towards God. I, on the other hand, am God come down in human form – that is the difference.”
Comment: This is what Venkataraman believes totally, and everything else is made to fit this Procrustean bed – that Sathya Sai baba is infallible! Some physicist Venkataraman is.

See also Indian Nuclear Scientist Now Sai Baba’s Global Radio Chief These days Sai Baba’s chief international propagandist (via Sai Global Harmony and WorldSpace International Satellite Radio Service) and deputy head of the immensely wealthy and influential world Sathya Sai Organization, Dr G. Venkataraman, was a top Indian nuclear scientist.

G. Venkataraman – Chief propagandist for ‘God’ G. Venkataraman is keen to imprint on his readers that, in studying anything about science, they are observing “The Glory of God”. This is, of course, an assumption and is not even a testable hypothesis, being a vague (undefined and indefinite) conception which is entirely non-operational.

Apologist for Sathya Sai Baba The only top Sai official who has ever even mentioned the many allegations against Sai Baba – and then only after a period of six years or more had gone by – is Dr. G. Venkataraman. He has shown his true colours, however, in having written a document full of cover-up and false statements aiming […]

The most gullible physicist alive? Dr. G. Venkataraman writes in Part 4 of his 7-part series entitled “In Quest of Infinity” on his Radio Sai website “You know, when I think about it all, I am simply wonder struck. On one side of it is God who has created the Universe in which all these wonderful things happen.

Dr Venkataraman, a victim of emotional blackmail? One of the many former devotees with whom I correspond privately has commented to me that “Dr.G. Venkataraman lost all his scruples.” Also that he “had a harrowing experience when he lost his son and that is the main reason he is with Sathya Sai Baba who kind of gave him emotional support

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Sai Baba’s philosophy sandbox – from the pompous to the asinine

Posted by robertpriddy on February 10, 2008


Trying to be deep and appear to be wise, Sathya Sai Baba has pronounced:-“Whatever is not in man cannot be anywhere outside him. Whatever is visible outside him is but a rough reflection of what really is in him.”
(Sathya Sai Vahini - paragraph ii)

COMMENT: Therefore, one can never know anyone else, only oneself. That this can only be false is evident, because it means that, in the case of every individual, ‘only I exist, all else is only my false imagination’. It is absurd that only one individual exists.

And also, in Sathya Sai Speaks we read: “…the world is but a mental image of the individual.” ( Vol.9. p.168 )
and:- “the world is a structure raised on one strong pillar, ‘I’. For, when this ‘I’ is dormant during deep sleep, there is no world as far as you are concerned.” (Vol. IV Ch. 48).
Further on the same lines:-
“Good and ill seen in others is only one’s own reflection and What is outside is a rough reflection of what is within”.

COMMENT: So the world does not exist, except as a mental image of one person! And so that person must be the greatest narcissist imaginable! And Sai Baba fits the bill of a full narcissistic personality! This is extreme advaitic otherworldliness gone completely askew! And this is about the worst philosophy on record, the idea being refuted by every major mind the world has known since Socrates onwards.

Sai Baba also has often insisted that:-
1) no one can understand him or his mystery, not if all humanity combines in the effort for thousands of years.
2) that God can be know by anyone who practices sadhana and attains self-realisation, because God is in the heart and everyone is God.

COMMENT: Both 1) and 2) cannot be true together, only one could possibly be true – but both could be and are most likely false! In either case, Sai Baba contradicts himself and therefore states untruths!
Besides, Sathya Sai Baba’s ‘mystery’ could not protect him from being ‘outed’ by many young men, nor from what others have demonstrated from his own words his countless deceptions and untruths, and reported of the baseless rumours he has spread privately.
SUMMARY COMMENT: Untrained minds with too little knowledge and lacking frankness and honesty – like Sathya Sai Baba’s – are dangerous playthings.
Read more on this complex issue ‘Is Sathya Sai only as we imagine him to be? – the Mirror delusion’

plus a deeper analysis of the philosophical fallacies in Sathya Sai Baba Spiritual Search, subjectivism and solipsism

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9/11 anniversary and Sathya Sai Baba’s claimed intervention!

Posted by robertpriddy on September 11, 2007

THE FULLY-DISCREDITED SATHYA SAI ORGANIZATION MADE THE MOST TASTELESS AFFRONT TO 9/11 VICTIMS EVER?

COMPOSITE IMAGE OF TWINTOWERS AND SAI BABA

In a meeting in St. Louis on September 11th (2011)  the Sai Organization tried to use that terrortist attack tragedy to promote their guru!
In a live TV programme on Zona de Investigacion (Azul TV, Argentina), Dr. Michael Goldstein is reported on by the Argentian journalist and TV director, Agnostelli as follows: Dr. Goldstein “gave some news that left the sweating audience mute: On September 11, the devotees that worked at the Twin Towers and the Pentagon didn’t go to work that day or were late getting to their jobs. ‘Thanks to our beloved Bhagavan,’ pontificated Goldstein, ‘all the New York and Washington devotees are safe.’ I shuddered to think that the public might applaud the news. But nobody did. Baba’s divine powers only benefit those faithful to him, or was this news passed on to avoid more desertions?”

Dr. M. Goldstein - Leonardo Gutter

Dr. M. Goldstein – Leonardo Gutter

In the same programme, Leonard Gutter, Central Coordinator of the South American Sathya Sai Organizations, said: “Baba’s love encompasses all: There were 50,000 people working at the Towers and only 3,000 died; then Baba saved 47,000, not only devotees. Each person has his own karma: that was the destiny of those who died there.”
The TV programme’s 1st part is transcribed here.

The sheer callous indecency of these wild conjectures by Dr. Goldstein and Leonardo Gutter towards all those whose dear ones dies in that catastrophe would be hard to surpass. It shows a total lack of judgement and blind faith beyond all reason, not in the least uncommon among Sathya Sai followers and his defenders (as on the Internet). See more about Dr. M. Goldstein here.


The grotesque hard sell of Sathya Sai as connected to 9/11 in the US

Dr. William Harvey, a member of the top policy-making ‘Prashanthi Council’ of the International Sathya Sai Organization spoke at the Sai Public Meeting in St. Louis, September 11, 2005, prematurely – and for no valid calendar reasons – celebrating Sathya Sai Baba’s 80th birthday (11/23) and the announcement of the Mayor that 9/11 is offically Sathya Sai Baba day in St. Louis! (see here) and see the report of Dr. Jack Feely, Regional President, Mid-Central Region US here)

Dr. W.M. Harvey

Dr. W.M. Harvey

The report stated: “The program was held at the 1904 World’s Fair Pavilion, a magnificent open-air shelter in the center of Forest Park. The 1300-acre park, considered the “Crown Jewel” of the city, was a picturesque setting worthy of a public program about Sathya Sai Baba, the Divine Crown Jewel of the universe.”The Sai Organization announced at great length its many efforts to get publicity, as in the following short example: “Personal letters of invitation went out to 49 professors of philosophy and theological studies of the major universities and colleges in the area, followed up with telephone message reminders. Press releases went to the major TV and radio stations, along with the major newspapers. Quarter-page ads promoting the meeting were put in a widely distributed spiritually oriented newspaper. That same paper accepted a 700-page article about Sathya Sai Baba and His teachings.”

(Comment: Seven hundred pages seems a bit over the top! It would take 49 philosophy professors to do that job on short notice? But how many attended or supported this scandalous misuse of September 11 to propagandise for an Indian fraud accused of sex abuses and murder cover-up? Ah now, there you have it!). The result has hardly been earth-shaking. Naively and without joking, Dr. Feely informed of the selfless service provided to participants as follows: “ Cold bottled water, served to attendees throughout the program, offered physical comfort that added to the spiritual comfort the speakers’ words provided.”

Further links about the Argentinian TV programme, see here and here

See also this new article at http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2007/09/12/memories-of-911-discredit-sai-baba-and-his-global-cult/


Please go to the Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya (or Satya) Sai Baba and His Worldwide Organization

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Sai Baba’s political marionettes

Posted by robertpriddy on September 10, 2007

Prime Minister of India GOVERNOR OF A.P.
S.B.CHAVAN FORMER PRESIDENT OF INDIA

As you see from the above, Sathya Sai Baba manages to dress up India’s top politicians in his own resplendent ‘uniforms’ and parade them like marionettes around his ashrams. The ornate gowns are supposed to be some kind of honour, no doubt, but the end result is that Sai Baba achieves a visible proof of his power over these powerful men. It is suprising that they submit to this public humiliation – as it is in the eyes of foreign observers and almost anyone else who is not a devotee.

Sai Baba has said:
Excerpt Sandeha Nivarini by Sai baba
Sai Baba on ‘My Acts’

Sathya Sai has many times called all his followers – and all human beings – his puppets, marionettes, dolls… actors on a stage where he is the sole director and so on. Indian Prime Ministers and Presidents let themselves appear as such too… but in fact – apart from protecting him from the law – they hardly ever do what he advises them (as he has complained in private to various devotees,  including the IAS officer Mr. V. Ramnath and Mr. M.K. Kaw, the former Air Minister who installed the white elephant Sai airport using public funds).

Early on, Sai Baba wrote an absurd and very long  ‘song’ about the human puppet, telling his readership “The song will certainly turn your brain!” The song ends with the declaration “See the Leela grand of Sathya Sai Nath” (i.e. see the miracles of Lord Sathya Sai). If you can be bothered, it may be worth a laugh – see  http://vahini.org/downloads/sandehanivarini.html#dialogueV

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GODS OF GODS ABOVE ALL GODS – SATHYA SAI?

Posted by robertpriddy on September 6, 2007

The One God of all religions?

Even if you believe only half you hear, you are in deep trouble with the following claims by Sai Baba. Will he go down in history as the Saviour of Mankind from global disaster (as he claims) and human evil? If so, he would necessarily displace Jesus Christ and Christianity, Jehova and Judaism, Buddha and Buddhism, Islam and Allah and Whoever and Whatever? One must certainly hope not – if only for the sake of human rationality and progress in empowering people to improve their lot and that of the world rather than become fixated in prayer to God and his traditional “teachings” about fate and the futility of worldly engagements. His many deceptions – so firmly demonstrated here and elsewhere – and his bogus  “universal religion” are accepted by a long line of Indian Presidents and Prime Ministers – and also by those of today and much of the Indian Government! It is an enigma… for can they truly believe in the following words of Sathya Sai Baba? They must… or else they’d have to view him as a megalomaniac.

“I am all deities in one. You may endeavour your best for thousands of years and have all mankind with you in your search. But you cannot understand My Reality.”US ed. of Kasturi’s Sathyam Sivam Sundaram Vol 3 page 315)

“There was no one to understand Me until I created the whole world”(Official biographer N. Kasthuri’s direct quote in ‘Pathway to Peace’ p. 64.)

Sathya Sai Baba said in 1968: “This is a human form in which every Divine entity, every Divine principle, that is to say, all the names and forms ascribed by man to God, are manifest… You are very fortunate that you have the chance to experiences the bliss of the vision of the form, which is the form of all gods, now, in this life itself.”(Sathya Sai Speaks Volume VIII. page 99f)

“God can do anything. He has all power in the palm of His Hand. My Body, like all other bodies, is a temporary habitation; but, My Power is eternal, all-pervasive, ever-dominant.”Christmas Day Discourse, Bombay 1970. ed. of Kasturi’s Sathyam Sivam Sundaram Vol 3 page 136)

 “On previous occasions when God incarnated on earth, the bliss of recognising Him in the incarnation was vouchsafed only after the physical embodiment had left the world, in spite of plenty of evidences of His Grace. But, ponder a moment on this Sathya Sai Manifestation; in this age of rampant materialism, aggressive disbelief and irreverence, what is it that brings to It the adoration of millions from all over the world? You will be convinced that the basic reason for this is the fact that this is the Supra-worldly Divinity in Human Form.” (Sathya Sai Baba 17/5/1968. Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 8, p 100)

 “If I had come as Narayana with four arms, they would have put me in a circus, charging money for people to see Me. If I had come only as a man, like any other man, who would listen to me? So I had to come in this human form but with more than the human power and wisdom.”(US ed. of Kasturi’s Sathyam Sivam Sundaram -Vol 3 page 309)

Further, on the task of the revival of dharma, he says “… who has to take it up? It was said that I have taken up this Form in answer to the prayers of sadhus (noble souls) and others… I have come, because I felt I had to come. I resolved upon this… This campaign will succeed, it will not fail. The welfare of the world will be ensured through the fostering of the Godly everywhere, and more particularly of these ancient reservoirs of the ancient wisdom of this land.”(Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 3, page 205)

“The Lord is the refuge of all who seek refuge, the saviour of all who have to be saved. He is the Embodiment of Being-Awareness-Bliss (Sat-chit-ananda). He is now at Puttaparthi as the Effulgent Emperor over the region of Truth, Goodness and Beauty.” (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. XIII, p 114)

“When dharma declines or rather, when those who have a duty to regulate their lives according to dharma lose faith in it, then, its restoration cannot be taken up by all and sundry… The Lord has come again on this Mission. He has collected the engineers and contractors and the labour for this purpose. He is not set on the task.”Let me tell you one more thing: Nothing can impede or halt the work of this Avathaara… Formerly when the Govardhanagiri (mountain) was raised aloft by a little boy, the gopis and gopalas realised that Krishna was the Lord. Now, it is not one Govardhanagiri, a whole range will be lifted, you will see!” (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 3, p. 106)

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Dr. G. VENKATARAMAN – THE MOST GULLIBLE PHYSICIST ALIVE?

Posted by robertpriddy on August 30, 2007

Dr. G. Venkataraman writes in Part 4 of his 7-part series entitled “In Quest of Infinity” on his Radio Sai website “You know, when I think about it all, I am simply wonder struck. On one side of it is God who has created the Universe in which all these wonderful things happen. On the other side, there He is in human form in Parthi, going about as if He is not aware of any of the mysteries in the Universe” See here or view excerpt scanned from that page (Click on thumbnail to enlarge) Venkataraman on Sai Baba as creator of the universe

Dr. G. Venkataraman reviews at length developments in our scientific knowledge of the cosmos… though nothing scientific that is not found in hundreds of books and other media. Venkataraman was a physicist working for the Indian government’s nuclear programme. However, he has copied his information on astronomy from other scientific authorities. Yet he does not once attribute anything he reports to its originators or to other scientific sources! He has even plagiarised text from such as the  Dennis Dutton website, without any mention.

Outright plagiarism by a man given many Indian awards. This shows a lot about the system in India and how dishonest academics benefit from it.

Both text and an image at http://media.radiosai.org/journals/Vol_05/01MAY07/04-SFI.htm were ‘lifted’ from denisdutton.com/einstein_eddington.htm by Prof. G. Venkataraman, without acknowledgement.
He also took the following images, all  without acknowledgement:-
‘The Big Bang’ image from science.hq.nasa.gov/universe/science/bang.html
‘An Expanding Universe’ from http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/Phys-SNAP-dark-energy.html
‘The Periodic Table of Elements’ is from http://www.scientificpsychic.com/health/chemistry.html (on which he has even imposed the logo of Radio Sai!
‘The Chandra Telescope’ images come from starbulletin.com/2000/01/14/news/story1.html
and from http://whyfiles.org/223orbital_astro/images/chandradiag.jpg
The images of white dwarfs are falsely sub-titled “www.radio sai” but they are taken  from http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/Images/science/hubble_m4wd.jpg
He uses copyright images from the Anglo-Australian Observatory at http://astro.ic.ac.uk/Research/Stellar/images/aat050.jpg

This failure to cite any references in articles on science or academic subjects is regarded as dilettantism by scientists and scholars. The innocent and uneducated may well believe that Venkataraman  discovered such things himself, when he is simply promoting himself as if he were an authoritative researcher. This marks him out as bogus. In addition to this absence of basic scholarly standards, he has a pretentious main agenda. He presumes to inform us of 1) The Cosmic origin of man.  2) Man’s Cosmic connections. 3) Man’s Cosmic responsibilities, and 4) Man’s Cosmic Destiny, no less!
These (contra-feminist) titles alone reveal that he is setting himself up as some kind of ‘spiritual mouthpiece’, misusing science as a mere tool in an attempt to inculcate religious belief – preferably  faith in his Lord and Master, Sathya Sai Baba, as the Incarnation of God Almighty in this Age.

Venkataraman posts his various lessons and lectures on the website he directs, and he receives no peer comment, let alone criticism, from within the Sai Baba movement, and such is not permitted at all! At the Sathya Sai educational institutions – where servile respect for elders and what they teach is an unbroken rule, no teacher or student would ever are to put a critical question to Sai-luminaries.  Protected from any critical debate and intellectual inquiry in the passive circle of co-admirers of Sathya Sai Baba, Venkataraman is able – with his Lord and Master holding the chain behind him – figuratively to bark down anyone in his vicinity who might dare to question his undigested and highly doubtful views. However, the wider world of genuine research and discussion – where excellence arises from rigorous peer review and disputation – will not be impressed in the least.

Dr. Venkataraman writes – as if he knows directly and authoritatively – of God and his existence etc. (actually – he really thinks he knows God personally as Sathya Sai Baba!) All the signs of pseudo-philosophy on a wholly belief-driven agenda are there, for he only parrots Sathya Sai Baba’s beliefs and propaganda without any critical thought whatever, even when they are wholly preposterous and in conflict with the most established scientific and historical fact (see overview here).

Evidently, far too much now depends on it for him, evidently – prestige and pelf, employment and perks. Sai Baba is his God and patron, and Venkataraman is his beneficiary (having received from Sai Baba an expensive new Japanese car paid for by funds donated by well-meaning followers who thought the money would go to raise the poor instead! (such as myself, alas, having once contributed enough to buy a number of cars). Venkataraman did not refuse to accept the brand new Japanese vehicle as a personal gift from his Lord (who says he has no money or property anyhow) and so becomes yet more of a  consumer than before…  one who immorally accepts what amounts to a bribe for allegiance paid for by money donated for the good of the poor, unhealthy and uneducated! Under Sathya Sai Baba’s direction, he willingly compromised himself. [Four other Sai-VIP’s accepted identical free cars].

See also

Dr.G. Venkataraman – physicist ‘explains’ Sathya Sai Baba Dr. G. Venkataraman rambles on denigrating scientists and science and promoting Sathya Sai Baba – as God descended to earth – and his most spurious speculations (‘teachings’) about an invisible beyond.

G. Venkataraman’s out-dated and fallacious ideas – part two  Propagating Sai Baba’s anti-scientific views, Dr. G. Venkataraman – former physicist – attacks science and scientists in general for the usual sins that religionists hold them to be committing. These I refute at some length, as called for.

See four-part article ‘The Sathya Sai Organization’s Deception and Propaganda Exposed’ refutation of Dr. G. Venkataraman’s mendacious and confused attack on Sai dissidents

Dictator Idi Amin – Sai Baba’s warm recollections The gullible ex-scientist Dr. G. Venkataraman enthuses over Sai Baba’s relations with most gruesome dictator Idi Amin, with crocodiles and more!

Dr Venkataraman, a victim of emotional blackmail?

Apologist for Sathya Sai Baba

Atomic physics Venkataraman-Puttaparthi style. Deeply intriguing

Dr. G. Venkataraman’s delusions and cynical cover up


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Money, Morality and Sai-worshipper Dr. Venkataraman

Posted by robertpriddy on August 29, 2007

Dr. G.  Venkataraman writes a lot about scientific discoveries in his series on the heart-to-heart website which he runs in connection with Radio Sai, but he writes from the standpoint of a religious believer and preacher of morality. There is therefore not much head-to-head communication in it, and – though he reproduces information of a popular scientific kind well enough, the bias is quite a-scientific in spirit. Take for example, his article “4 M’s – MAN, MONEY, MYTH AND MORALITY By Prof. G. Venkataraman“.
He firstly dwells on how science has affected technology – simple, well-known high school level stuff.  Economists who were his audience must have been bored stiff with a patronising lecture on such elementary events in the rise of industrial technology known well enough to any educated person.
However, he summed up the whole thrust of his lecture as follows: “My central point was that when man goes avidly in quest of wealth, he quickly loses discrimination and begins to swallow all kinds of myths. This results in man abandoning scruples, if not wholly, at least in substantial measure, and in turn that leads to disaster. In other words, my pitch was that nobody, economists included, can afford to ignore Morality in the larger scheme of things.”
What’s the point, one wonders… it is unclear whether he means that they should not invest in exploitative companies, or rather abandon economic realities and the profit motive and wealth creation generally? It’s anyone’s guess.

The pot calling the kettle black! 

Venkataraman has lost all his scruples about sexual abuse allegations and murder cover-up by Sai Baba, he is comfortable with all of it! (See here!) So morality is certainly ignored in his scheme of things, at any rate. He also tells what everyone knows anyhow, how scientists made the atomic bomb and states, “Overnight, scientists lost their innocence and became putty in the hands of those who had money to throw.” Well, G. Venkataraman is one of those very persons, for – like his more accomplished former colleague Dr. Bhagavantam – he worked for the Indian government on developing atomics which backed up India’s nuclear capacity! Now he is preaching against this… and he is one of the guilty!

His agenda is definitely unscientific, for it is religious moralising, as is clear from his words here: “Swami puts it all neatly and crisply. He says we must first have Love for God followed by a fear of sin. If these two are present, then Morality in Society would automatically follow.”

This has been preached for centuries in the Christian world (love and love of God have been a Judeo-Christian concept altogether until very recent centuries) but now we are told by Sai Baba that the world is ever more imbued with evil in this Age of Kali! This is really simplistic empty talk which provides no practical solution to the vast world problems with which science and economy are struggling to cope. Add to this that Venkataraman has swallowed quite other types of myth than consumerism; those connected with Sathya Sai Baba – which are of a megalomaniacal sort!
More on the issue of Venkataraman’s  compromised position coming soon

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Sai Baba boasts of his gold churning ‘womb’

Posted by robertpriddy on August 25, 2007

Sai baba's golden womb

There is a lot here to figure out! God’s womb… well, we have been told that Sathya Sai Baba is a hermaphrodite, he has himself repeatedly claimed to be the female and male principles (Shakthi and Shiva) in one body. There is something unfathomably queer going on here… a vigorous churning process? And in his divine ‘womb’? But then how can we mere humans hope to understand it – or anything as it really is- as Sai Baba is ever telling us himself (since he says he knows all of it)?

AN HEURISTIC PRESENTATION MAKES IT ALL MUCH CLEARER?
Sai asks: “What is the significance of Lingodbhava?”
Ironic Reply: Ah! Sir, sir, does it represent the Creation of the Universe?
Sai said: ” Linga means a symbol or a sign.”
Ironic Reply: But what is a symbol or a sign OF, sir?
Sai states: “It symbolises the Formless Divinity”
Ironic Reply: You are the Creator of the Universe, as you have often told the crowds. So it churns and churns in your stomach then comes out on Shivarathri night – sometimes twice or even up to nine times in days gone by?
Sai explains: ” As you can see the Linga has no distinctive features like eyes, face etc. It has neither feet nor head.
Ironic Reply: Cor, really, is that so, sir?
Sai vouchsafes: “It can be turned in any manner. Where is its head and where are its feet?”
Ironic Reply: Search me, sir!

See Sathya Sai Baba’s fraudulent “production of the Linga through the mouth” here
[Video clips from http://www.srai.org/%5D
Baba cheating with lingam (1,91 MB, with sound)
Baba cheating with lingam (4 MB)
Baba cheating with lingam (5 MB, with sound)
A film clip of the ‘actual emergence’ has been posted on the internet by devotees. One can pause the video and examine each frame separately to analyse the movements. (The film clip appeared originally on kingdomofsai.org. Sai Baba vomited a spurt of liquid twice, only the last time filmed with the hankerchief trick). From before the alleged ‘emergence’, Sai Baba is clearly seen to be holding something just about the size of the lingam inside the towel between the thumb and forefinger of his right hand! Now what on earth could that be, one wonders? After the vomit, he lets go of what he was holding in secret and fumbles to extract it with his right hand, taking the lingam from under the towel just where it was being held earlier, and we see a rather confused look of resignation cross his features.
View the most important fragment of the clip)

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India’s state, Hindu nationalism and prayer

Posted by robertpriddy on August 17, 2007

miseryprayer

India is famous for its glut of temples everywhere and for amount of public prayers, their length too. No one denies that Indians pray a great deal – very much more than Western Europeans, without doubt. One might well say they have all reason, so difficult are the lives of the majority of them. India is beset by enormous problems of lacking social welfare, health care, nutrition, security for disabled or the aged, primitive labour conditions, many having to live on the pittance of ca. $1 per day and so on and so on. So Sai Baba’s exhortation to pray is not working for most people in India, while in Europe most people are doing better and better. Prayer has always served to empower the priesthood and religions generally and it serves to empower Sai Baba (many pray only to him!). Yet it also disempowers devotees who believe it will lead to help with their problems by distracting them from practical remedies, making them into beggars for boons. Because we all know they can, at best, only somehow solve things otherwise.

Sathya Sai teaching on the effectiveness of prayer is bogus
It defies all common sense and reason… we can see how so many pray for years without result. As soon as something good happens, such believers will probably impute it to the one they prayed to, so they remain trapped in the delusion. But consider the example of the Tibetans who, collectively, surely prayed more than any known people in recent times… until the Chinese invaded and everything they cared for was destroyed and those who escaped death were dispossessed and exiled, the country usurped. Were their prayers answered, then? Sathya Sai Baba has also said that God often answers your prayers with other things than you want or expect, but with what is best for you (especially also sufferings “for your own good”). See the duplicitous and completely self-defeating nature of prayer in that? To get what you didn’t pray for! What then of Sai Baba’s “There is nothing in the world that cannot be achieved by prayer”? That little or nothing can be achieved is far more likely (admitted, prayer can sometimes have a temporary psychological effect on the supplicant).

Believers may think that India’s economic surge, which increases living standards for the still small but growing middle class, is due to pujas, yagnas and temple visits? Still, acceptable standards of social care, health care and other social services common in rich countries are non-existent for tens of millions of Indias. Technological improvements are available to those with money, but is otherwise mostly of a very low level. According to international organisations, the country has somewhere in the region of 20 million child labourers, there are countless beggars, sick people and heavily handicapped persons living on the streets and camping out on pavements in most cities in absolute penury and many lepers (treated as ‘untouchables’ and isolated in primitive colonies). Corruption of all kinds has for decades been so endemic at all levels of society that most people there have lost all belief that it can ever be stamped out, it seems. Added to all these well-known weaknesses is a huge educational gap, plus a media information gap due to excessive top-down control of information. “God Incarnate” in Puttaparthi would control what his devotees can learn or discover (especially about himself)… so he advises praying, and even stopping all thought (more on this soon). This can only serve to hinder the growth of knowledge and awareness needed to combat India’s problems.

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Sai Baba: Prayer, not environmental awareness?

Posted by robertpriddy on August 16, 2007

Sai on ‘foolish’ scientists

If Indians do worship the earth, what effect does it have? It can’t be measured in any scientific way, of course. Everywhere across the globe, the earth is being over-exploited, and particularly in developing countries. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to be affected one iota by praying to the earth… that is a superstition prolonged by religionists like Sai Baba from the era when there was no natural science and one could only believe that deities like Indra ruled the rain and thunder… and so forth. It is the government and many Indian corporations which control of major industry, agriculture and the whole environment in India. They cannot be “worshipping the earth” in any appreciable way (or praying to the ‘earth mother’ (Bhoomidev), for the land is being raped and polluted on a huge scale by the activities under their regime. The situation has doubtless not improved since international companies were allowed to engage in the Indian economy, but then the economy has improved beyond recognition since the Narasimha Rao government opened the country up more. It is material need and corporate greed that drive over-exploitation and the destruction of eco-systems.

Sathya Sai Baba’s contribution to raising awareness of ecological issues is minimal and mostly as ill-informed as the above quotation – claiming that the inner significance is lost on “foolish scientists”. What kind of illumined inner significance has his vague prattle about “reflection, reaction and resound” and example of echoes in mountains? Sheer empty talk, compared to the knowledge science now has of the inner workings of genes, the origins and causes of nearly all natural phenomena, of stars billions of light years away. Science alone has traced ‘natural reactions’ in a comprehensible way… not Sai Baba, who continues to flaunt his ‘otherworldly’ vaguenesses and his ignorance of science, as already shown here (and more to come!).

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