Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

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The ‘Divine mystery’ of Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on July 22, 2010

Sai Baba maintains his ‘mystery’ by avoiding giving straightforward answers

Sai Baba is a practiced master at seeming to answer a question or tell something while expressing it so ambiguously or obliquely that it amounts to saying as good as nothing. Every now and again he suddenly breaks off mid-sentence and turns his attention to something else or another person. The disappointed person soon contrives an explanation, for this omniscient God must be telling something deep and subtle through this behaviour. There is much talk about how to understand in a positive light things that it would be glaringly evident to independent persons are avoidance or manipulations by Sai Baba. I have to admit that I was taken in for a long time by some of his clever comments and half-spoken sentences…

I too spent much time searching to explain his words and acts. It was like searching for a needle in a haystack, and the results were seldom too convincing when I did find any. I even wrote articles in his journal Sanathana Sarathi at the behest of its editor (V.K. Narasimhan), all precisely to try to clear up some of his vague or contradictory statements. I now conclude that he mostly avoids really telling anything when he is may be trapped into an easily unproven answer, meanwhile leaving the devotee at least an illusion of having the attention of God Himself and a response the meaning of which will make itself known in good time. Those he talks to (very seldom more than one or two sentences) are told by yet blinder followers that they should be pleased, even grateful, for this divine blessing! Many are overwhelmed with gratitude for this audience which it is said by all devotees to be something one has striven towards through many previous lives packed with good actions! Many people want to believe such things and the more difficult their lives are, the more they apparently do. In the ashrams one believes in ‘thinking with the heart, not the head’. No one seems to realise that the heart (i.e. the emotions and irrational impulses) can deceive as much or even more than the head. The so-called ‘heart’ can be filled with feelings of inferiority, intense unfulfilled longing for love and further, bitterness and hate. Not exactly an infallible inner guru to rely on blindly in the face of common sense and informed reason, as most gurus including Sai Baba insist it is!

There is no doubt that the subjective experiences of interviews are felt as very good by most people (though not all, for some are told off strictly too). One can read hundreds of accounts that use superlatives beyond all reason. I can now see myself as misled and so ‘naively guilty’ of a much too one-sided and gold-tinted account of interviews in my book (‘Source of the Dream’). Therefore I choose to describe my summary of Sathya Sai Baba interviewees’ from the cold clarity of my eventual disillusion with them.

After attending several interviews they tend to become an anticlimax to persons who have still have a mind of their own, because so little can really be learned about anything from Sathya Sai Baba. He just reels off his usual imprecise spiritual directions and follows – with few variations – a set of routines he has practised and perfected through thousands of interviews. Sometimes it is like a routine he enters, regardless of who is present. But this is certainly not how one’s first interviews seem! Interviewees are often so worked up after months or years of his ‘Wait! Wait!’ instruction – and who can count what sacrifices and efforts many have made- and are mega-relieved (as if they were pools’ winners). In interviews, many behave as if in a daze, there is often a sense of staring, hypnotic happiness. Especially ladies, mostly having been constantly starved for the slightest attention at darshan, often give themselves over to an orgy of gushing words about it afterwards, like ‘blissed out’, ‘spaced out by divine love’ and ‘eternal moments of realisation’ and what have you. All of this remind of some psycho-social orgasmic release of pent-up doubts and worries in surrendering to the delightful conviction, ‘So I am really one of God’s chosen children after all’. This conviction is always insecure, however, and Sathya Sai Baba will shake it time and again with his famous hypothetical ‘tests of faith’, i.e. his indifference, his neglect and much more besides until death… of that one could invariably be convinced and confident, at least!

From about 10 hours altogether in the various interview rooms with Sai Baba and from hearing and reading at least 100 accounts of interviews from other devotees (often noted in papers they circulate or in articles and books) and after countless hours of private discussion with Sai Baba’s translator at many interviews, V.K. Narasimhan, it is fair to say that Sai Baba seldom responds openly and frankly to what the questioner really wants to know, but turns the question back at the questioner or spins the matter around somehow. If he does reply (rather than, as often, turn to another person instead) what he says is frequently elliptical and off the point. He treats all questions or comments which he does not like in what my elderly colleague Prof. Erlendur Haraldsson characterised to me very fittingly as follows:
“I recall when Karlis Osis and I had our first encounter with Sai Baba we both felt that he, apart from his great charisma, was a great prima donna, with a tremendous ego, and also kind of a Napoleon, with a ruler’s mind and tactics. Boasting, and illusions about one’s true characteristics is a part of such a psychological makeup, and in Sai Baba this is to a psychopathological degree unless one assumes the split-personality model to explain him, which I find tempting.”

What we would not accept as a valid or relevant answer from other people, many devotees will immediately accept as profound when it comes from the one they believe to be omniscient. For example, when asked by a friend of mine from Copenhagen why it was that Jehova (i.e. God, i.e. Sai Baba) had not told the Jews about reincarnation, but asserted the contrary via the Bible. Sathya Sai Baba simply did not understand the question and asked to have it explained. (A divine joke that he can’t understand? I think not!). My Jewish friend said that the question was about reincarnation and intended to specify, but – without waiting to hear the actual question again – Baba replied brusquely, and in so many words, “Oh! Reincarnation! You cannot understand it. Do not try to think about it. It is like the seed and the fruit.” I saw that this answer was just a brush off, but afterward my friend claimed that it was a perfect answer! His view was that, because the question was one that his Jewish wife considered very important, Baba was telling that they should rather concentrate on other more important things. This is not untypical of Baba’s way of answering questions.

Sai Baba frequently replies so obliquely that no intelligible sense can be made of his words, or he changes the subject unexpectedly, or brushes it aside and the person concerned often takes whatever comes as a significant teaching or even a spiritual directive. This is also typical of evasive deceivers hoping to maintain others’ false perceptions, or to avoid being unmasked or incriminating themselves. In short, whatever Sai Baba replies, or however he avoids replying, is taken by devotees as a profoundly meaningful matter! If what he says seems plainly mistaken, based on a misunderstanding or factually wrong , the devotee will twist and turn the words in every possible way and relate them to all manner of events past present, dreams, imagined things and so on until some kind of sense can be derived from the words… however unsatisfactory. This is also the case when he does not reply or is gruff, or gives the brush off. It becomes a subject of constant meditation or worry, self-examination and self-doubt. I have witnessed this on many occasions. What hardly ever seems to occur to the poor person who is struggling with these challenges is that Sathya Sai Baba might be wrong, might not know what he is talking about, may be bluffing or may simply be inadequately equipped to deal with the question. Only after realising that Sai Baba is not at all what he claims to be does all this gradually become as apparent as the sun in daylight!

See also how Sai devotees are induced into the cult of systematic rationalization through re-interpreting Sathya Sai Baba’s words and vague statements


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Sathya Sai Baba seen on the moon?

Posted by robertpriddy on July 9, 2010

Some deluded devotees who do not understand the first thing about the difference between and causes of objective and subjective experiences keep on sending out unsolicited e-mails about this non-event, which has discredited Sathya Sai Baba among all people with a modicum of real intelligence and properly established knowledge, as follows:-

the unsolicited e-mail – and the image accompanying it. Anyone can see that the image was superimposed using  a graphic programme,

The above message appears when one tries to access the source.This kind of absurdity was supported by several major Sathya Sai Baba sites like saibabaofindia.com and Puttaparthilive.com, which posted the following:-

October 26th 7:00 pm – Swami’s divine darshan in Moon

Many devotees from all over the world have written to us about Swami’s Divine darshan in Moon. We have received emails from devotees in many parts of India, United States and United Kingdom etc. We ourselves saw the Divine darshan of Swami in the moon for the last few nights. We were waiting for some pictures from devotees because our camera’s are not that powerful.

That the image was a construction and the report a fake report made by zealous promoters of Sai baba is supported by the fact that the original of this post was removed both from the Puttaparthi news site and the blog of which a capture is shown above (made before removal). Nor is the material available on the web wayback archive machine. In short, a big embarrassment to the Sai people which had to be eradicated as soon as possible. The basis for all this frenzied fantasy is the fact that the moon’s darker part bears some resemblance of Sai Baba’s afro frizz, but nothing more.

Interestingly, Sathya Sai Baba’s pet physicist and promoter – Dr. G. Venkataram – and would-be astronomical writer (a plagiarist) has remained completely silent on the most embarrassing issue! But then he has stated outright that he believes that Sathya Sai Baba is the Creator of the Universe, nothing less! What kind of a ‘scientist’ can be so deluded?

Several other devotees have made bogus images of SaI Baba appearing on the moon. Among these is that of Darpan Rane, who superimposed Sai Baba’s face on an image of the moon, which was posted by the blind believers who run saibabaofindia.com. Later Darpan Rane admitted that he had created the image… meaning it to represent what he (thought) he saw in fact earlier.

Concocted image which easily deceived countless followers of Sai Baba. Darpan Pane wrote: ….. THE APPEARANCE OF BHAGAWAN’S BUST IMAGE ON MOON LAST NIGHT’S SKY: SAI RAM EVERYBODY!”WHILE I AM HAPPY SHARE WITH YOU OF THE APPEARANCE OF BHAGWAN’S BUST IMAGE ON MOON LAST NIGHT’S SKY (VISAKHAPATNAM, INDIA),

See also:-Deceiving ‘devotee’ makes bogus image of Sai in the Moon
Sai Baba To Be Seen In Moon? But Where Was Moon?

Sai Baba Fails To Grant Great Moon Vision. Endangers Crowds
Sai Baba Fails To Appear In Moon, IANS Reports

‘Moon Mission of Sathya Sai Baba’. Re Merinews Article
May You Look At The Moon And See Santa In It
Sathya Sai Baba’s Failed Moon Miracle Under Heavy Cloud

Is Sai Baba’s Moon Madness waning still further


Why build moon rockets when Sai Baba has mantras?

More Sathya Sai Baba Moon Madness

Sai Baba’s mystic Moon Region ‘Chandraloka’ and related ideas
Sai Baba on the Moon videos
Long-awaited photo of Sai Baba in the moon
Sai Baba on the Moon – photo for his birthday?

Hundreds see Sai Baba on the moon

Sai Baba appearances on the moon

More Sathya Sai Baba Moon Madness

Sathya Sai Baba seen on the moon?

Oops! Apparently Sai Baba DID appear on the moon?

Sai Baba postpones moon buggy ride


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Sathya Sai Baba ‘leelas’

Posted by robertpriddy on July 4, 2010

I have encountered many devotees of Sathya Sai Baba who get doubts about what he says, what he expects them to do, what is good for them and so on… then decide to ‘ask Swami himself’. But, since they almost never can’t get to ask him in person, they use some other method for deriving his answer. One common practice is to draw one of three prepared papers left on the shrine. One will have the word ‘yes’, another ‘no’ and a third ‘wait’. Some just spin coins or roll dice! Special coins (Umi and Tumi) are even on sale at some Sai shops for this purpose.

Or the uncertain devotee may set up some other precondition of getting his answer like, “If I see a dog wagging its tail today when I go shopping, then Baba’s answer is ‘yes’. (They usually fail to consider that not seeing  it must therefore mean ‘no’!).” If the person’s idea is realised, then this event becomes a ‘graceful leela of the Lord’ (his play with his creation) and is taken as further evidence of Sathya Sai Baba’s self-proclaimed omnipresence. If the desired result is not forthcoming, then one can always forget it and have another try with something else. I have witnessed many people at the Sai Baba ashrams and in his organization  making the most absurd assumptions and conclusions in this way.

Flipping open a volume of Sathya Sai Baba’s discourses (like ‘asking the Bible’) is a typical method. Whether one sticks to the first sentence one sees, or chooses another which lends itself better to a somewhat relevant meaning, probably depends on the level of desperation of the seeker.

Those who get ‘the right answers’ are often unaware that this kind of phenomenon is by no means restricted to one name and form. It is a very common occurrence, and often works well when there has been greater investment of emotional and mental energy behind the question. In this way one may even  enter communication with spirits of the dead, or aliens on an UFO, or the Director of the CIA… and get wonderful answers. As to religionists who communicate with God… well, that is the ultimate example! There are even those who base their life decisions on a throw of the dice. In all these kinds of case, coincidences that occur become meaningful messages from the beyond and whichever entity one may believe in.

The psychologist C.G. Jung, who experienced many  ‘strange coincidences’ and investigated the question deeply, naming these effects ‘synchronicities’. He reckoned that they have to do with the power of projection of subconscious energies and that there is somehow a ‘collective unconscious’ whereby thoughts and symbols are processed and transmitted between minds across time and space. So far most of Jung’s ideas have not been scientifically tested, though a vast plethora of speculative thought has developed around his theory. It seems extremely unlikely that they are the work of what many – along with Jung – believe to be discarnate ‘elementals’. These include deities, earth spirits, djinns, ‘fairies’, demons, succubi, demons, mischievous spirits and the whole range of identities these forces have been given in different cultures and ages and represent powers that seem to exist without being embodied). There is, of course, no guarantee of goodness (let alone divinity) being attached to any such phenomena. It is an area fraught with deceits, delusions, self-deceptions, fraud. Such is life in many a guru cult…

Properly investigated explanations of these ‘meaningful coincidences’ may come in time. I have always followed developments in this area and, as neuroscience successfully delves deeper into the brain’s vast creativity, the re-creation of many psychic states and experiences through stimulating areas of the brain are showing that one may even have so-called ‘after-death’ experiences that way… or experience a range of hallucinatory states of mind, and even enjoy ‘mystical bliss’ and apparent paranormal perceptions.


 

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David Bailey on Sathya Sai Baba (transcript from phone call plus audio links)

Posted by robertpriddy on May 22, 2010

Former leading devotee of Sathya Sai Baba, David Bailey, explained his disaffection in a phone call with Thomas Wiehe, a Swedish ex-Sai Baba devotee).

David Bailey, who exposed Sathya Sai Baba's deceptions
The fuller evidence “The Findings” presents the Bailey’s intensive investigations of Sai Baba’s reported sexual activities. fraudulence claims and activities.

Listen to the actual phone conversation in mp3 here:- Part One,   Part Two  and Part Three   (full transcript can be read here)

Here are some further excerpts of Bailey’s testimony (see also earlier blog)

David Bailey: I have personally investigated first hand – that the water project is not finished, there are many villages without water – not even connected. The hospital is very badly run and it is just not what we are told at all. Now people do not want to hear this, but this is the truth. This is why Faye and I have moved away. He knows that he will be caught out. The rings are all bought from Hyderabad and locally in the village, the vibuthi he carries between his fingers in tablets… I’ve seen it, he dropped a tablet in front of me. It is all an illusion, it is all a hoax, it is all one big trick, and so many of us innocent people have been hoodwinked. Faye and I, with our books, we have removed them from sale wherever we can, because we cannot allow anybody else to go and get involved because of us. We also respect that many people do good, but it is now time in my view for people to do good because of good, not because of his name. It is a terrible situation…

When I spoke to the very close people – I have some very good friends there who know exactly what’s going on – when you get to the inner circle it is a business, that’s all they’re interested in really, but people like Phyllis Krystal, people like Mike Hollander, who have been there for many years, they just turn round and they say ‘If you consider he is God, he can do anything. He can have fraud, sex, drugs… anything. If you do not consider he is God, then of course you have a problem, because of the laws of your land, your morality, your own upbringing and your own standards. And they say this is your problem to sort out, you must decide that he is God. I said this is crazy, the one that creates this beautiful world that we live in, does not come to this earth and do these ridiculous things. There is NO record in Prashanthi of him doing any healing at all. Any healing that has happened within people has been an internal personal thing, but there are very, very few serious records of this anyway. The problem with the incidents that have been reported before is that either the young men have been so threatened that they have said ‘I’m sorry, I made a mistake’

I think the first thing that made me question was when there was a question of Prince Charles going there and because I have played for the Royal family several times I know that what happened with the detectives that go – you know -to check everything out first. And Prince Charles had written to me about the possibility of going one day and I suddenly thought ‘what questions will they ask me, what answers can I give them. And I suddenly realised that I was living in a dream world, not in the real world.

Thomas Wiehe: What did you find about the hospital?

“David Bailey: There is a ward that is still not open. They have not done any renal operations for a year. The money is questionable. With Isaac Tigrett, when the hospital was built, he gave $49 million. Well, only $34 million went to the hospital the rest were… well, it’s just corrupt. Australian television do a programme on him last year and the hospital, they had found that they were selling organs etc. The hygiene of the hospital is disgusting. Now I know Sara Pavan who is the top anesthetist from Australia who’s there all the time, and he said to me ‘David, you never, ever, ever let anybody come to this hospital because they do not understand hygiene. It is just so sad. We’ve had several instances where people have been refused entrance to the hospital who need attention. They say they do not have the money but this does not make sense because the money that I have seen being handed in at the office every day. The problem that we have is that the coordinators will say ‘This did not happen’ or ‘this is an illusion, this is a test.’ It is something that must be addressed.

To read the entire transcript one can visit David Bailey Phone Conversation

The phone call text was posted by Gerald Moreno in an attempt to get maximum Google coverage of the issue for his pro-Sai fanatical defenses. His arguments can be seen here, with suitable comments which defuse his entire misguided maunderings.


Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya Sai Baba and his Worldwide Organization – temporarily unavailable

- View ex-follower signaturesRead of prominent petitioner, the origin and problems faced by the petition from saboteurs etc.<

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Projecting one’s whole autonomy onto Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on April 9, 2010

All Sathya Sai Baba followers who visit his ashrams have always had to queue, sit and wait almost endlessly before he appears – let alone before they get the chance of an interview, which almost no one does any longer due to his invalidism. Many pray and wait for years on end for the ‘Lord and Master’, and ‘spiritual seekers’ who travel across continents are all constantly hope for some form of personal attention, eye contact, some words… then more and more of the same. All this is shared by all followers, excluding very important persons, such as heads of state, royalty or the super rich and famous, who mostly get comparative red carpet treatment.

Sathya Sai Baba used to walk about very slowly, making gestures (which many people took as personal messages to them!) and when he looked even in a person’s general direction, they took this as a blessing! Not a few report how waves of happiness, bliss, even ecstasy floods through them, tears come to their eyes. If he smiles at them or takes a letter from them, it seems to them that they at last have confirmation of being personally acceptable to God himself. In most cases, these emotions are the culmination of a very long period of approaching through meditation on him, prayers to him, letters sent (often with the writer’s most private thoughts ‘in advance’) after much reading of books which all praise him beyond the clouds, videos which seem to prove he is a divinity, hearing miracle and amazing healing stories galore, and making diverse efforts to live according to his directions, do everything in his name.

Many followers sacrifice much time and money, put up with all manner of difficulties and disappointments on the way, meanwhile meeting many other persons telling of wonderful (subjective) experiences seen through their own faith. But by then they have already become highly open to suggestion (becoming what are called ‘good hypnotic subjects’). Despite this, or precisely because of it, various persons have been surprised, as was I, upon first observing him show himself (i.e. “give his holy darshan“) because. he seemed just too ordinary. But then, one already ‘knows’ that it could just not be true…has he not told them not to be deceived by his short stature, for in reality he holds the entire universe in his hands?

Longing and Yearning are ‘projective': The intensity developed by followers’ desires and beliefs amount to psychological projections. Projection is a very complex process with many aspects and can vary in strength, scope and content. Nonetheless it is a common occurrence among followers of all idols, especially those who have created an aura of holiness or wisdom around themselves, by whatever means.  Even one small apparent paranormal event – taken as the longed-for Sai leela or small miracle – is enough to set one  self-reinforcing ones indoctrination to last for life! This may take the form of statement like the following which was sent to me by a colleague at some stage as an illustration of how mental projection words in those who have invested much time and energy without noticeable attention from Sathya Sai Baba:

 

“I vividly recall looking at his form with utter peace and no thoughts. He stopped and turned and gave me this amazing smile, piercing me with his eyes and I felt this incredible warmth enter me. “What did he do that for,” I thought, on that day three years ago. Today, the penny dropped. Thought has to stop.” by Sai Baba devotee Christopher (Chris) Parnell – Australian Sathya Sai Organization

The dropping penny – after first awakening new thoughts – evidently causes thought to deteriorate – and that is precisely the programme Sai Baba sets out – overcome one’s thoughts through mantras, prayer, bhajan singing and meditation. Kill the mind – supposedly letting mindless ‘universal consciousness’ take over!  I have observed through many years observing others how their minds tend to drift without incisiveness or efforts at improvement, getting ever more uncritical and unreliable. Impressionable persons who have been actively indoctrinating (or ‘brain-washing’) themselves for a long time within the cocoon of beliefs and mostly within the circle of other believers… especially in the otherworldly and unrealistic ashram mental environment where all one’s wildest hopes may (but most likely will not) come true.

Powerful projection reinforcements: Projecting all kinds of desires and ones best imaginings onto Sathya Sai Baba and his circle, one produces a self-conversion by oneself. These circumstances are known to be conducive to sudden healing and many other extra-normal effects, but these always prove to be partial and temporary… the enthusiasm wears off after the famous ‘honeymoon’ period is past. Such phenomena are well known, far from being limited to Sai Baba or other Indian gurus – consider Billy Graham, Lourdes. Pastor Moon and literally thousands of other personality cults. One develops a partly delusional world-view and can then become easily manipulated by powerful forms of suggestion of the kind otherwise called ‘hypnotic’. These can cause considerable distortions of sensory perception, even though one does not enter an actual sleep-like trance (viz. Derren Brown). The intensity of the ‘projection’ makes likely not only changes in outlook, but a new sense of purpose and energy. All one needed was a catalyst (a relevant  object or person to project onto in the specific case), and that is how idol-worship and personality cults work.

More on mental-emotional projection and Sai Baba’s methods of using it to come.


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Jaani Drucker, The Truth, open inquiry and truthfulness

Posted by robertpriddy on February 21, 2010

Having noted the exchange of views between Barry Pittard and Jaani Drucker (aka Yaani Drucker), I am prompted to provide some more detailed examination of the issues at stake. With her self-promoted superior insight into The Truth (as if it were something hypostatized and ontologised) Jaani Drucker rejected Barry Pittard’s questions without answering them, writing “When you are determined to find denial and resistance, there is no honest debate or discussion possible. You have already closed your mind.” This is a typical cult-defensive reaction where questioning itself is viewed as something negative.

If anyone has closed their minds it is surely Jaani [Yaani] Drucker. How can one tell? Because she has not had anything new to say except continually to preach that she has the TRUTH and is – by implication – self-realized, all the while parroting nothing but the ideas of Sathya Sai Baba – where these concur with ‘The Course in Miracles’ (better called ‘Pollyanna Positive Prayer and Preaching’). This is more of a dogma than a doctrine for it is closed to any basic modification and is isolated from all further development and – above all – criticism. In general it is an extreme form of religious puritanism as found in the Judaic Talmud, the Old Testament and the strictest Hindu doctrines.

In continuing to promote and defend Sathya Sai Baba, Yaani acts as if her supposed Truth is so precious as always to have to be attended by an unquestioned bodyguard of supporting liesºº… those which have been exposed on a large scale by many former followers, not least Barry Pittard and myself. Al Drucker admitted – when pressed – to the former Central Coordinator of the UK Sathya Sai Organization, that many parents had complained to him of sexual abuse by Sai Baba while Drucker was resident at the ashram. Jaani is no doubt also well aware that Sai Baba has escaped justice only because the entire Indian system of corrupt topmost politicians and judges who worship him have protected him from all accountability! This is part of the body of lies the Druckers prefer to condone, supposedly to protect their Truth, which would need not protection or even promotion if it really were that immutable and powerful.

Those who have invested their prestige in Sai Baba and his teaching on the ego etc., like the Druckers, live largely within a community of persons and ideas divorced from all research, informed debate, the stringency of peer review because the doctrine they embrace is that the Truth, as preached by advaitists and Sai Baba among them, is immutable, requires no modification or development. They can reject without informing themselves of the entire world-wide advances in human psychology by hundreds of thousands of practitioners and researchers garnering experience from all corners of the globe and the human psyche… none of it could ever upset a figment of the ordained and immortalized Truth of their favourite religious speculations, static and stagnant as it has been for centuries! It’s main method of persuasion is repetition. One can only sustain this claim to total knowledge within the cocoon of ashrams or circles of New Age type persons, for it cannot stand the slightest buffets of well-informed intelligence based on tried and proven hypotheses by a global host of professionals.

If we look a little into this supposed Truth, we find it depends on the ‘death of the ego’. The doctrine of ‘ego’ that is most central to Sai Baba and I understand also to the would-be self-realization group run by the Druckers is really nothing more than a long harangue against selfishness (Me and Mine). This naked and stark belief – that selfishness is the root of ALL evil – is dressed up in portentous ideas about the ‘true egoless self’ within (and hidden from) all mankind . The belief posits the wishful dream of a total awareness of selfless unity within divinity, described in highly fanciful terms like ‘the golden womb’, the Heart and so on. Now, a doctrine of self-denial – if moderated by common sense and free of dogmatic certainty and absolutism – would not be unwelcome. Yet the anti-ego dogma is lacking in realism or practicable and compassionate humanism. It is actually very naively formulated in reducing the entire personal ‘ego’ to something far less than it is: a dynamic psychic development necessary to life as we know it. There is conceptual confusion involved – the word ‘ego’ is misapplied by Sai Baba, imitated uncritically by Jaani, to include one’s entire identity ‘as a separate being’, which again is seen as being blinded by ignorance (of the Truth of its own nature) and dominated by egoism in the form of selfishness and greed.

The human ego is to be understood as a dynamic development of every psyche through coping with the demands of the environment (others) and instinctual urges (survival, sex, fear, power, suppression, dominance, sex, hunger etc.). The ego, as psychologically understood, balances and reacts properly to the external and internal demands impinging on the person and is a very necessary achievement without which one cannot avoid one or another form of cognitive disorder up to and including severe and chronic mental illness. Looking after oneself and one’s own interests is the very basis of being human, without which one cannot even recognise or appreciate the same unavoidable need in others. Pursuing self-interest is unavoidably important, both for individuals and societies. It is the excess of such pursuits – greed of all kinds, economic and social insecurity, excess in power-seeking and all the related ills we all know so well – that are the problem. The self-realization through death of the ego brigade do not recognise this… they consider they have progressed beyond such needs (but often I have noted the actual consumption of goods and services are above average among the most outspoken ‘Ceiling on Desires’ advocates).

This fails to recognise the vast achievements of ego psychology (which it almost entirely rejects as illusory worldly untruth). It is not based on the slightest research – it cannot be tested (except by sacrificing one’s entire life – a fool’s risk). It is a puritanical and typically Indian religious doctrine – such as Sai Baba’s advice ‘Die Mind’ (one of his many execrable poor puns), which he symbolizes by giving away diamonds (all synthetic stones, yet more symbolically!). Obviously, undue selfishness is a trait without which the world would surely benefit, but taking it to the point of self-annihilation (i.e. killing the ego, ‘killing the mind’ – such as through prayers and mantras) is probably only for those who are ultimately tired of the whole of their own lives.

As seen in so many religious sects – it most often ends in moralism of the most unwelcome kind, sustaining and increasing people’s sense of personal inadequacy, leading to depression and even suicidalism in those who feel incapable of meeting its constant demands. Those who strive to follow the unworldly practices involved get no lasting benefit from the process either (except for possible temporary exhilaration of the kind ‘Now I have solved it all, what to do?’). Those who have made a vocation of it and sunk their prestige in preaching it may manage to keep up the required outward Pollyanna smile.
More to follow shortly…

See also The Ways of the Mind – on the issue by a Swedish psychologist
Strawberry Fields Forever? plus comments on Jaani & advaitic doctrine
Barry Pittard Replies To Sathya Sai Center Rape Survivor’s Note To Him
Dangerous to Rationalize Rape. A major Sathya Sai Baba Follower’s Example
God is everything, in everyone – as a spiritual teaching
Advaita – historical flight into abstraction and speculation


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Sathya Sai Baba claims of bribery!

Posted by robertpriddy on February 11, 2010

Sai Baba lied outright about his accusers taking bribes to betray the guru!

“Some foreigners are trying to bribe them. They are saying, “See, foolish ones! I will give this much money. I will give so many dollars. I will give this many pounds. You write and give some stories against Sathya Sai Baba.” A lying smear – and without a shred of evidence – against the many young men who accuse him of sexual abusing them!

To denounce people in public with an angry face (and most unforgivingly on Christmas Day itself!), beating the lectern before him, he said almost in the next breath: There is no trace of anger or hatred in Me and hence everyone loves Me (Sanathana Sarathi September 2002, page 257f).

“… we should disregard abuse and hold to our righteous ideals firmly.” “Love even those who abuse you. I am a standing example of this.” (p. 267)

but he had taken notice just there!

Sathya Sai Baba contradicts his main tenet!

Sai Baba later refuted the main tenet of his own lifelong teaching: “All beings are sparks of the Eternal Divinity” [page 101, Discourses in Kodaikanal 1998] “… a hard-hearted person cannot be called a spark of Divinity; he is verily a demon.” [p. 323, Sanathana Sarathi, November 2002].

He clearly tried hard to limit the damage he had himself done to his movement (through his own actions) not least to try to stop the loss of foreign donations.

“In the single family of humankind, where is the room for jealousy or hatred? These are all imaginary.” Sai Baba teaches he is never wrong,doubt only yourself!
He teaches the absurd pseudo-philosophy of ‘whatever you imagine, is true for you’. This is a trick of mental enslavement and a get-out for himself. Above all, he wants to stop his followers facing the staring facts.

See the unexpurgated literally translated full version published by the (banned) premsai group of students
See the entire infamous Christmas Discourse as published in expurgated version in Sanathana Sarathi here.

As to bribery, Sathya Sai Baba was not in the least bit foreign to it himself. The person who made the original translations from Telugu, ‘Divya’, was present during and after the infamous 1993 murders in which Sai Baba was known to be deeply involved and was present when a massive cash bribes arrived in the apartment of his elder sister… followed by the same amount to many residents in the ashram. This is but one – but very well testified – instance of bribery on a large scale by Sai Baba. See full eyewitness account here


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Can Sathya Sai Baba be deceived? And if so…

Posted by robertpriddy on February 2, 2010

Here is a remarkable sentence from the book ‘ANYATHA SARANAM NASTHI’ ["Other than you refuge there is none"] by one of his most devoted lifelong admirers, Smt. Vijaya Kumari (known as ‘Vijayamma)’ reports that Sathya Sai Baba said:-

“NO ONE CAN DECEIVE SWAMI, IF THEY DO, THEY WILL DIE WITH THEIR HEADS SMASHED TO PIECES” (p. 276)

 

Direct quote of Sathya Sai Baba’s words by Vijaya Kumari in her authenticated self-biography.

Not only is it self-contradictory, but  from a self-pronounced “Embodiment of Pure Love” is plain talk! It exhibits either sheer duplicity or serious split-mindedness.  This lady was one of Professor Erlendur Haraldsson’s main witnesses on the various miracles of Sai Baba, being interviewed extensively by him for his book ‘Miracles are my visiting cards’ (also published under the title ‘Modern Miracles’). She is regarded with great reverence in much of the Indian Sai Baba movement due to her having been a child when Sathya Sai Baba was a rampant teenager in Puttaparthi (as she portrays him), leading his gang around and confronting adults with details from their private married lives etc. Her book is worth reading because she tells rather frankly of the younger Sai Baba’s behaviour, including his propensity to tell many untruths, to stir up trouble and –  last but far from least – how he relentlessly and regularly beat her baby son, Prudvi, only 2 years old – and for long periods. The son later became a ‘favourite’ and one can see Sai Baba’s proprietary relationship to him in the photo.

See text where Vijayamma details Sai Baba’s draconian punishments of her baby!

Gerald Moreno is entirely mistaken about my reference to the Vijayamma account. We see, yet again, as in myriad instances, Moreno’s penchant for untruthfulness and tendentious deviance from fact. There is desperation in his mammoth effort to defend his idol. There is his tendency to rationalize anything which would cast Sai Baba in an unfavourable light. For example, Moreno has himself related how Sai Baba “oiled on the lower stomach” (in private), and has given spurious rationalizations of the experience – explanations which any responsible citizen (and especially parents of children) would find objectionable. Adult touching of this kind is against the laws of India just as it is in many other countries. Gerald Moreno blunders and misrepresents me in stating that I am ‘smearing’ Sathya Sai Baba. It is nothing of the sort, for I have reported exactly what Vijayamma has written.

Moreno will most likely pass over the importance of this fact in silence, I expect, as he does with nearly all those undeniable facts about the man he admires so totally as to attack the outspoken Sai-critics full-time including harassing them (and sometimes their children!) in their community and personal lives. He condones everything Sathya Sai Baba says and does, for he never raises the slightest criticism of any of it, rather promoting him through his sickeningly obsequious but also hate-inflamed web log [entitled with unconscious irony "Sathya Sai Baba - Love, Light and Spirituality"]! What he lacks in facts, valid arguments and honesty he makes up for in seeking ever new avenues to spread his constant flow of spiteful disinformation and libel further onto Google – such as the Internet Thesaurus and Zoominfo.com! Meanwhile, I report about him and what he has written himself. HIS is a smear campaign, not what critics are doing! The work of critics such as Barry Pittard, Brian Steel, Kevin R.D. Shepherd stands on its own merits and is far remote from the libelous, defaming and demeaning language which is to be seen on almost any page that Moreno writes.

Moreno claims that I was threatened with a million dollar lawsuit (by a half-crazed Indian called Rebello). He knows this is a lie. I was never threatened, not even by mail – let alone from any lawyer. Let him try the impossible now, to prove his statement… with any genuine documentation. Rebello claims he wrote to a server and threatened them. Even that was never forwarded to me. Likewise, no critic of Sathya Sai Baba has ever been sued, nor even threatened in any credible legal way (except once by an incompetent Indian posing as a lawyer whose bluff was called immediately by no reply), yet Moreno claims to know better! He loves to grab a half-truth and turn it into a full lie, and then to claim that it is critics (whether former devotees or reputable media) who are engaged in falsification. He crafted his wholly untrue account simply so as to try to get oxygen for his libel pages… as he always does, even if the point concerned is utterly trivial, he will post it here, there and often everywhere he can.

Though never threatened legally, however, I have received death threats from Sai followers, as proved by the comment made on this blog site – see the response from a Sai defender on the blog here). The person who made the threat was reported to the Oslo Police… no doubt another Sai coward hiding behind an assumed name and using the e-mail of a large educational institution.

Sathya Sai Baba Man Gerald Moreno – Banned By Eight Wikpedia Editors

Note: Moreno defended Sathya Sai Baba for years while believing him to be a sexual abuser – see his own words and denying all negative facts about him. He is in deep denial, not least having himself been molested or ‘groomed’ through being “oiled on the lower stomach” (in private)


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The ‘test of faith’ and Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on January 25, 2010

Self-transformation as self-deception When Sathya Sai Baba devotees experience personal setbacks from the most serious to the most trivial, they have to consider why Swami let this happen to them… for as devotees they are required to believe what he says about everything that happens is ordained by him. They may lose near and dear persons in accidents, disasters or from otherwise curable illnesses… and the general reason for these in the Sai doctrine is that they are tests of themselves set by him. This thought is not uncommon in other religions, one rationalizes away in much the same ways anything that goes against faith in such an invisible being. Everything has, in fact, to be regarded as a divine blessing. Everyone who really believes in God as a creator and ruler of the universe has to accept that everything – however gruesome or or malign – that is done to them is good, for their own good too. But only the most deluded persons can sustain this attitude in real life, which means that believers always become split in their affiliations and reasoning. Unless they drop their faith. However much anything clashes with present needs or longings is to be regarded as a boon which can further one’s own self-development is Sai Baba’s ‘teaching’. Self-sacrifice, putting oneself aside totally is the doctrine Sai Baba preaches most often.

There is absolutely no way one can subject such a doctrine to any kind of valid test which can prove it. It depends entirely on faith. One can at least carry out the test of viewing them as mere ordinary occurrences, much in the way that anyone would tend to, and also to regard them with a more critical eye as possible manipulations to further interests and purposes quite other than the good of others than Sai Baba himself. Virtually all human experience tends to deny that everyone is under divine protection – backed up by diverse statistical studies which compare what happens to those who are believers with those who are not tend strongly to show there is little or no difference. Not as regards proneness to accidents, illnesses or – contrariwise – to winning large fortunes by chance or any other even experiences as positive and beneficial to the person involved. All common sense and observation also rejects that faith in such fanciful ideas as a ‘divine providence’ or God’s supposed ‘executives’ (i.e. guardian saints or ‘angels’ etc.) Faith means to accept that no test of divine doctrine is ever required, that it is a truth known in the heart, or some other such baseless fancy. Whatever problems that arise have to be taken as a spiritual challenge from God (or, failing his/her/its immortal presence, the divine guru) – a test as to whether one is ‘holy’ enough to keep faith (in him and what he teaches) and thus generally to be come more otherworldly or ‘detached from worldly affairs’ in favour of ‘attachment to God’. Which really implies, to lose touch with reality and live in an escapist world, a subjective hall of imaginary distoring mirrors.

If by following his supposed or imagined ‘will’ or ‘inner advice’ one has to face unhappiness or personal loss, bodily or worse suffering, or even death, it is said to be the best of all possible outcomes. So there is no way for a fully indoctrinated Sai devotee to find out whether much worse – or much better – could have taken place without Sai Baba’s guidance! That is what I have analysed at length as the ‘guru trap’. The convinced devotee will invariably ignore all other interpretations, and will studiously avoid all advice to the contrary and refuse to learn or read anything which could weaken their faith! For millennia, most religions – and not least the Indian priesthood and spiritual gurus have used this form of indoctrination, very often no doubt mainly for reasons of control and manipulation of others and for self-enhancement, wealth and power. The inwardly groveling dependency of thought and of outward may be with the best of intentions that the persons who have such faith can discover within themselves, but it most certainly is not a sign of personal or ‘spiritual’ development, but one of a static condition and self-delusion.

Sathya Sai Baba constantly argues that all people (excluding his holy self) have impurities or ‘dross’ that must be ‘burnt away’, comparing the process to the reduction of gold in a crucible, or to the grinding down of rough diamonds to perfect them as jewels. The VIUP followers hold that this process is stronger and faster when one gets closer to Sai Baba’s person, as they have. It must be observed that these VIPs are, in the experiences of very many persons who have complained to me about them when I was the national leader in Norway, are often stuck up, arrogant, manipulative and self-serving. They speak of their ‘service’ which is overwhelmingly talk and directives to other, and in physical terms seldom exceeds moving a few chairs back into place after a meeting. They defend everything Sai Baba does that people find unfair, wrong and heartless and, when they very seldom deign to discuss criticisms of him, they explain away his lies and broken promises. All the common – and also socially vulgar – qualities observable in him are excused as a part of his necessary divine plan… for no devotee dares to point out that they could possibly be fault and impurities in Sai Baba without risking exclusion or worse,

I have recounted some of the supposed ‘tests of faith and purity’ including some extraordinary one imposed by Sathya Sai Baba (See here) http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/5/Transformation_by_tests_of_faith.html#test1


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Khushwant Singh video clips: genital oiling, lingams, followers

Posted by robertpriddy on December 31, 2009

The world for Sai Baba devotees is like an enchanted garden where anything can happen. Small incidents can seem meaningful when it is believed he creates them. … They inhabit a world in which signs and evidence of his love and grace are pervasive. Any trouble vanquished or illness cured is by his grace(L.A.Babb, 1986 a:199)

TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW WITH THE HIGHLY RESPECTED & AWARD-WINNING INDIAN AUTHOR KHUSHWANT SINGH  – FROM ‘THE SECRET SWAMI  (SEE THE SHORT VIDEO CLIP 2.1Mbs in Quicktime – SEE HERE)

 

KHUSWANT SINGH: Indians get impressed when they see white people becoming devotees, that applies to the Germans, Australian, Italians, Spaniards, Americans with shaved heads with their pigtails, wearing the mumbo-jumbo of the prayers that they carry out, dancing in the streets

another short VIDEO CLIP  SHORT SINGH VIDEO CLIP  567Kbs in Quicktime   – SEE VIDEO HERE)

TANYA DATTA: One of the things that a lot of the abuse victims we’ve talked to have said is that Sai Baba does the genital oilings because it is part of Hinduism. Have you heard anything…

KHUSHWANT SINGH There is no Indian tradition to support –  that worship of the linga includes  doing the ‘blow job’, if that is what you are referring to.
I don’t think there is any basis for that whatsoever.

NOTE HOW THE BBC CLAIMS TO HAVE TALKED TO MANY ABUSE VICTIMS! NOTE TOO THAT THEY HAVE ADMITTED TO GENITAL OILINGS, IN TANYA DATTA’S WORDS. THE ‘BLOW JOB’ TO WHICH KHUSHWANT SINGH REFERS IS NO DOUBT THAT REPORTED BY MARK ROCHE ON THE BBC DOCUMENTARY.

TRANSCRIPT OF VIDEO CLIP (SEE THE SHORT VIDEO CLIP 2.1Mbs in Quicktime – SEE HERE

KHUSWANT SINGH: Indians get impressed when they see white people becoming devotees, that applies to the Germans, Australian, Italians, Spaniards, Americans with shaved heads with their pigtails, wearing the mumbo-jumbo of the prayers that they carry out, dancing in the streets

In his regular column in The Hindustan Times on March 20, 1999 (during a rare visit by Sai Baba to New Delhi) Khushwant Singh made the following enlightening remarks:

“The Indian soil is very productive of prophets and messiahs. We have always had men and women claiming to be incarnations of God, or even God Himself in human form. What would be regarded a sheer blasphemy and treated with ridicule by Christians or a sentence of death in Islam is acclaimed by Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs as an avatar. So we have many Bhagwans (Gods), Swamis (Lords), Rishis (Sages), Maharishis (great sages), Acharyas (teachers), Saints (saints) and Gurus with large followings.”

“… If anyone is to be put on a shrink’s couch, it is not the godman but his followers who look upon him as God to find out what is missing in their lives which they hope to fulfil by associating with their chosen godman. It is not producing vibhuti (sacred ash), materializing watches and medallions from the air or regurgitating sivalingas – all such tricks can be performed by magicians and cannot stand the test of scientific scrutiny. The devotees’ faith has more solid foundations. They have unquestionable belief that their guru can do no wrong.”


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Subtle recruitment to Sai Baba’s cult

Posted by robertpriddy on September 4, 2009

The following posting made by one of the innumerable followers who were able to see through their self-indoctrination is most informative and is a genuine reflection as to how Sathya Sai Baba gains adherents in many parts of the world.

Hi all,
I guess the way people are joining the SB movement can be very different in different parts of the world. But its true that the official teachings are that no missioning should be done. It is supposably Sai Baba himself who calls all the devotees to join. The organization was just to supply information for those interested. My experience is from the Stockholm center in Sweden and at least there we didn’t have very active missioning. It was an issue to NOT mission. And even our ‘information evenings’ we didn’t advertise very much, just a small note in a newspaper.

Its all very subtle, and I think I was on my watch in the start to be sure this wasn’t a cult (did I fool myself yes). I think it is effective because the devotees there are true believers, good and honest people. No pulling you in, just listening and sharing of their fantastic experiences. A warm feeling of ‘we have found the true GOD, but you just make up your own mind, you are very welcome but its OK if you don’t join as God is everywhere, we will love you anyway’.

Typically people would ask how you heard of Sai Baba, and talking about it it would always seem like not just an odd coincidence but like Sai Baba through some means were personally answering your prayers. So you felt you were picked by God himself. In the Sai-family its very common to see everything as ‘small miracles’ or ‘signs’ or messages from Sai Baba himself.

I don’t know if all this is done consciously to be effective, but I can see now that:

1. Because the missioning isn’t very active there is never much of a confrontation with skeptics or people openly questioning Sai Baba as a fraud or cult leader.

2. The people coming to listen to meetings are already open to the possibility, are interested and feel they come of their own will and don’t feel pulled in.

3. Once there its very friendly and open to any views, no one hitting dogmas down your truth, just a lot of people that seem to have found ‘happiness’.

4. As no one tries to convert you, you put down your guards and subtle you start to see also how your own experiences are really *Sai Baba himself calling you* (who wouldn’t like God to pick you out, and because you came there in the first place you probably were in a stage in your life where you needed God or something in your life).

5. Its effective as they are all very honest and good people only living in an illusion themselves.

6. From the start you are told not to try to convert others or to try to argue with non believers. You are told to practice not preach. I followed this and because of this I never was confronted with ‘differing views’. So this way my new believes were never challenged.

More in next about family and friends…
Love, Kali

Message 332

Re: Recruiting and family

Again how devotees relate to old friends and family differs a lot. You are not told to leave your family but to love them and be a good example. There were some devotees where the whole family joined and others where only part or one in a family.

My personal experience was that my family (parents and sisters, as I’m single) was a bit curious and maybe on their guard. But as we are very much respecting personal choices in matters of belief in my family no one was trying to talk me out of it. They just checked I was doing fine. Part of it all was that I got to know Sai Baba at a time when I was very depressed and joining the movement made me feel much better. So they were all happy I was feeling good. And as I kept good contact with my family and never tried to convert them they never interfered but respected my choice. The same with my friends.

But I also know of devotees who had the urge to convert friends and family and always talk of Sai Baba to everyone, and in those cases sometimes it came to a distancing from family and friends.

I’m glad I had the kind of friends ad family that I have as they been there all the time and still are here for me as I found SB is a fraud.

As to what is best for worried non-believers, family or friends, to do when you see a near and dear one duped, I think there is no patent answer. You just have to feel in how much you can argue or how to supply alternative views as devotees are not all the same. Some might cut off all contact if you are too negative about Sai, some might just listen and smile and let it pass as they think its Sai Baba testing them and that their duty is just to continue loving you and be a good example of Sai Devotee.

Well these were just some experiences I have had as a devotee (and now an ex-devotee). I hope it is of some help for you being friends of devotees.

Love, Kali (http://profiles.yahoo.com/kali_fi)
Though Kali speaks, and correctly, of the non-recruitive nature of the SSorg., nonetheless, Barry Pittard has discussed, along with revealing photographs, how Sathya Sai Organisation recruitment DOES go on, and lists a number of plush venues where it proceeds, clearly intended, in an organisation fighting to maintain its threatened revenues, to draw the wealthy who feel comfortable in such venues:
‘Secret Swami’ Cult Recruits At Prime Public Venues


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More ‘Sai lies’ (sathya asathya)

Posted by robertpriddy on August 15, 2009

from Sanathana Sarathi July 1995, p. 172

from Sanathana Sarathi July 1995, p. 172

Sai Baba has insisted that his weight has remained at (the ‘divine’ number of) 108 lbs (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol 28 p.186 ). He evidently forgot that he had also said something quite opposite in a discourse: “…Swami started eating rice food which students take. He lost 6 kg in weight during 20 days’ stay at Kodaikanal. In Puttaparthi, Satyajit was in the habit of taking My weight now and then. When Swami was in Puttaparthi He weighed 108 lbs. At Kodaikanal, when weight was taken, it showed a reduction by 6 kilos. Swami weighed less than 100 lbs.” (Sanathana Sarathi, June 1998, page 146.)

The Sai Baba stomach

The Sai Baba stomach

Sathya Sai Baba can be seen to have put on and lose weight at different time. Besides, body weight also changes during each day, 2 lbs beings the difference between, say, before and after drinking water and eating a light meal? Water weights 2.2lbs. per litre, and Sai Baba has also warned everyone that they should drink at least 6 glasses of water daily in the hot climate of Southern India… which is at least another kg.

In Sanathana Sarathi, Nov. 1998, he is quoted as saying in connection with fruit offerings to him at the Paduka pooja: “Do they think I am Kumbakarna? I do not even take meals, then what are the fruits for.”
But those who doubt his appetite for food and fruit should take a look at the visual proof… pictures here.

Sai Baba also told V.K. Narasimhan in 1998 that he had not had his hair cut for 20 years either! However, photos taken of Sai Baba through that period show clearly that (around 1993/4??) his hair was suddenly seen to be almost 1/3 of the volume it normally had. Then it slowly grew out again. I was present at the ashram at that time and observed this closer crop of his hair. It was so thin at one time that I could clearly see the scar on his scalp which was reportedly made by a black magician in his teenage years. So Sai Baba can tell anything he likes, whether true or not, accurate or not, and get away.with it… but only among his confirmed and fully paid-up followers!


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Dream visitations by Sathya Sai Baba?

Posted by robertpriddy on July 30, 2009

from “A CRITICAL SITE ABOUT SAI BABA” by Paul Holbach

Specific issues # 2 Treated Arguments: Dreams, etc.

STATEMENT: he is endowed with bilocation and telepathic powers, enters the dreams of anybody at his own will, that is to say: if you dream of him, it’s because he wants so (it’s his statement), and not because of your unconscious

This aspect is confirmed by Sai Baba’s same words, let’s read:

Q: Is it true that Swamiji comes into the mind of a person during the dream state, only if Swamiji desires it?

Sai Baba: O yes, No person can dream of Swami unless Swami Himself desires it to be so.
(from a dialogue between Sai Baba and Eruch Fanibunda, 1976)

And more: [Sai Baba answers a question raised by the audience]
“Why does Swami appear in the dreams of only few and why not in
all?”

[...] Dreams are the reflection, reaction and resound of that which is within you. The same does not apply to the dreams in which Swami appears. Swami appears in dreams only when HE wills it and not when you want to[...]“
(quoted from the discourse of 24 November 1998)

Although just a moment before, in the same discourse, he has said the exact contrary (we’ll see ahead), this is what Sai Baba says. This “dream question” seems to be made on purpose, to keep calm the devotees: since are very few those who obtain an interview when they go to him, and since certain and unequivocal “signs” by SB usually hardly come, here’s that the guru could come through dreams, but only if he wants so. The devotee, sincerely infatuated and enthusiastic, very easily will dream of him: and please let me say that by now, about dreams, is much more certain what has to say psychoanalysis and psychology, than what does say Sai Baba… well I was saying, the devotee will dream of Sai Baba, and he will consider the dream as a direct message from the Avatar, who gave him the darshan in the dream.


Should not be more probable that someone who wishes to have a contact with Sai Baba dreams of him, and in the dream realizes his desire? And if the dream contains a reproach, couldn’t it derive from the deep unconscious of the dreamer? Freud and colleagues really lived in vain?

>At this point the objection is raised: “OK, it could be, but then how do you explain that often someone who strongly desires it, doesn’t dreams of Baba?
This is the proof that it’s him who decides it”
. The objection is baseless: we don’t know what our unconscious does hold and what it does not, and what censorship processes (oneiric, vigilant and of other kinds) could act within ourselves. Certainly, they exist; decades of psychological sciences demonstrate it. In effects, for long time I myself have desired and asked Baba to come into my dreams to “enlighten” me, but it didn’t happen; on the other hand, in the same lapse of time I’ve never dreamed of, let’s say… Frank Sinatra (rest in peace): can I perhaps deduce from this that Frank Sinatra had the power to enter or not in my dreams at his will?

Regarding the other powers (bilocation, telepathy, etc.), are valid the same considerations as above about the kind of testimonies and its reliability: the stories are countless, but the many personal psychological factors of those who lived or told these accounts, the expectations, the distortions, the time passed by, the atmosphere in which many stories take place, do invalidate its reliability as “proofs” of anything. One must always consider that for the most part of Sai Baba’s followers and devotees (the ones who then write the books to tell the “miracles”), he is the one to whom they have surrendered themselves, he is the one who will take care of all their needs; thus they will tend to ascribe to him anything could happen or not, both good and bad things; and in this last case, they will search for “signs” from the master. From here to the various stories of bilocation, telepathic rescues, etc. there’s really a short way.
See also…

Dreams of Sathya Sai Baba – imaginary or real? – Sai baba has later refuted that he comes in dreams!

Supposed ‘dream invasions’ by Sathya Sai Baba

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Avoiding delusion (Maya)

Posted by robertpriddy on July 29, 2009

CULT ENTRAPMENT BY SOCIAL AND PSYCHO-SPIRITUAL MEANS
My researches, based not least on long personal experience
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‘Spiritual Doublethink’ Reactions to this crisis of faith
The ‘Mirror Trap’ How traditional gurus operate
Conformity to the core belief system Beguiled by Sathya Sai Baba
Fundamentalist guru trap Gurus and Authoritarian Power
Complex confusion – the labyrinth trap The psychology of belief and doubt
How perceptions of Sai Baba develop False promises of health & protection
What point in tests of faith? More tests of faith and trials
How the form binds & stunts Dreams of Sai Baba
Monkey Minds? >Hidden fear of Sai Baba as ‘the Avatar’
Misinterpretation of guru’s words Escaping the Sai cult
What is a cult? The Sathya Sai Baba cult
Why not clear doubts? Believers’ programmatic interpretations
Realised persons’ qualities

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Sathya Sai Baba – kindness and thankfulness

Posted by robertpriddy on July 16, 2009

“We should help even those who have harmed us. This is the vow of Sai. No matter if some people criticize or ridicule Me, I will always look at them with kindness. (Sanathana Sarathi June 2002, p. 166). “There are many who are hostile towards Me. Many ridicule or criticise Me.” (ibid)

First thing to note, Sathya Sai Baba has NEVER done anything to help his critics, that is certain. He has several times strongly implies they have harmed him, so to “help even those who have harmed us” is just his empty words! However, most of his critics have merely pointed out the facts about him which he and his cronies have tried to hide, using suppression, bribery, political clout, clandestine activities and even the infamous murders in his won bedroom  to silence all opposition.

Further comment on Sathya Sai Baba’s discourse 6-5-2005 [Note that the 'Me' in the top quotation is always with a big 'M', as per usual! As in 'Me and Mine'!]

He also says most unsympathetic things about many people, not least Indian and other politicians but also his devotees and anyone who acts from greed, wanton desire and many other motives. So one may say he sets an example as being a virulent critic of those who do wrong.

Many of us are like Sathya Sai Baba in looking on our detractors with varying degree of tolerance – even sympathy (such as for for their delusional disorders), so there is really nothing so amazingly unique about Sai Baba if he sometimes thinks kindly about critics (which we bear in mind even though he has called them many bad names). He also often roundly disparages – and also ridicules – people in his discourses ( and in group interviews!).  Note: Sai Baba also called his accusers Judases and demons! Yes, he actually believes in demons, as well as literally in 14-feet high men like Rama, and ogres too – as he told in the most popular book by J. Hislop ‘Conversations…’!)

“See how much help Swami is giving to the poor and needy. It is all for their welfare. But some people are not at all realising the value and are not grateful for it. (ibid p. 166). How can one who boasts that he owns nothing, give anything? It was given via  Sai Baba by many well-meaning, good people, and not by him as such. But he has to boast and rub it in again and again. Why? Instead, he berates foreigners for giving indiscriminately, as follows (in original discourse, edited out of Sanathana Sarathi).

“Today all the foreigners are distributing money, distributing money, distributing money, and they are making the country of Bharath very low.” This is yet another preposterous and sweeping false statement about India by Sathya Sai Baba! In the original discourse he also waffles on about someone who became the US President, but without naming him, Lincoln is evidently intended. But what he says about Lincoln’s politics towards the black population demonstrates very basic ignorance of the facts.

Sai Baba’ actually advises a form of deception, “You cannot always oblige, but you can always speak obligingly”. This quite simply also means to pretend that one is obliging when one actually is not! It is to mislead and is ‘bad faith’.He is obliging at times, but – contrary to this – his discourses are packed with harangues against others of all kinds.

Most of Sai Baba’s  critics now care little or nothing as to what he thinks of them. At the same time, he clearly takes pleasure in pointing out how much his critics will suffer, in this instance for example, by saying “Hurting someone who has helped you will result in losing your eyesight”. Not only is this a sheer absurdity, but it is a threat to those unfortunates who believe he is all-powerful. He has implied that he is hurt (eg. said he puts up a smiling face despite heavy criticism), even though he later says, “none of it will reach me”. But much of it did get to him most certainly, rousing him into making awful threats against his detractors in his angry, lectern-thumping, and infamous Christmas Day Discourse of 2000 Such unforgiving talk from this self-promoting ‘God the Father’ on the birthday of the all-forgiving Jesus Christ! Was this conscious insult to Christians or mere ignorance of their creed? Forgiveness is above all the value par excellence of Christianity.  and did not figure at all in the traditional Indian spiritual value system, as far as I can discover. We see how Krishna was for war and blood at Kurukshetra. When Hindus like Ramakrishna embraced the Jesus figure, forgiveness became an occasional value in some Hindu teachings.

So Sathya Sai Baba continues to speak with two tongues, and still within one and the same discourse. This is not so surprising from a dual entity with a Janus-faced personality – a man (S.N. Raju) who is ‘very human’ (Kasturi’s remark) with all kinds of failings (admitted by many close servitors) – and then a self-proclaimed deity (‘Sai Baba’) from some other realm with what he has called his ‘very fast helpers’ and who tells us that the whole of humanity working together could never understand him! A person whose oft-reputed unmastered lust makes him much more like Ravana than Rama, believe what you will!

Incidentally, I do not set out simply to ‘ridicule’ Sathya Sai Baba – unless that be pointing out what is already ridiculous of itself – though I am certainly criticising him. I am truly only pointing out his self-contradictions, and many discrepancies between his words his actions and his actual observable behaviour. The fact is, Sathya Sai Baba talks so exaggeratedly and acts so otherwise in so many things, that he comes across as ridiculous (to those who are not totally indoctrinated with his excuses and deceptions about everything wrong he does and says – his ‘three ton lingam‘, his ‘magnetic feet attracting the earth to him‘, that he will fly unaided so his devotees can see him worldwide, that he will life a mountain range to save devotees and so on). I also comment critically on all the secrecy and cover-up surrounding much of what he does, and the consequences it all has or can have for truth, good people and social justice. If my deepest conscience did not demand of me to do this difficult service, I would be only to happy to desist. Moreover, I exert considerable efforts to write nothing that is untruthful or unconsidered about Sai Baba.


Please go to the Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya Sai Baba and His Worldwide Organization

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