Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

Exposing major deceits by guru Sathya Sai Baba in India, incl. murders cover-up & widely alleged sexual abuse

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Bon Giovanni & Ram Das Awle – two very disturbed minds

Posted by robertpriddy on October 9, 2011

Ram Das Awle is an outright supporter of perverse sexual abuse, and justifies Sathya Sai Baba’s sexual abuse – in which he believes took place – and if you don’t believe it read his web page (of which the original has been preserved in secure copies in case he tries to delete or change this very damaging material. Another devotee of Sai Baba in intense denial is Bon Giovanni, whose craftily-named website ‘Sai Critic’ (it is all really Sai defense) is an attempt to defuse criticism of Sai Baba. He endorses Ram Das Awle too, by having posted his writings on his own site.

CLICK ON IMAGE FOR WEB PAGE ON GIOVANNI —Though I never met Bon Giovanni, this photo of him was sent to me. If indeed he looks like that, then I would never ever have bought a used car from him either.

Early on during the exposé, Bon Giovanni defended his having posted a set of lies about me – making accusations that many others have directed against Sai Baba, namely of male sexual abuse. Such a primitive-minded and lying response all because of my many well-documented criticisms!  I was held to have sexually abused students who were said to have visited me to hear my talks about Sathya Sai Baba. I never gave talks about Sai Baba, nor was I visited by any students from abroad in that connection. Needless to say, I am no sexual abuser, but a happily married man. So Giovanni and Awle have marked themselves as person totally without moral judgement and decency.

Ram Das Awle writes about me, too, on a Sai Critic page, though he avoids giving my name for some reason – probably not to let Google find my name there and draw further attention to me and himself. He writes:-
“One thing to keep in mind: the gifts Baba give reflect the qualities of the people to whom they are given.  Furthermore, what we see in the Sai Mirror (and receive therefrom) reflects primarily our own minds.  Baba often manifests diamond rings, with surprisingly large diamonds set beautifully in gold; some of these rings have been valued at over a quarter of a million dollars.  Yet one man, who has now taken to globally scandalizing Baba, also received a ring from Him – and when he took it to a jeweler for valuation, he was told it was not a diamond at all but merely a well-cut lump of glass!  Is it any wonder Baba gave such a ring to one who would prove a completely false devotee?
Of this I am sure: if Baba does occasionally engage in a bit of ‘sleight of hand’, it is only another piece of His maya – specifically designed to create negative rumors that will test His devotees and keep unripe souls from recognizing Who He is.  Those who think they have ‘caught the magician at his tricks’ have actually been fooled by the Avatar’s maya, and in the process proved themselves as yet unworthy to behold the glory of the living Incarnation of God.” (source ref)

This is all rationalization, because Awle does not account for the fact that I met Sathya Sai Baba on many occasions (including in 5 private interviews) and that he said of me in public with witnesses present that “He is good, good, very good” and “He has a very good mind” as two examples of his opinion of me (but then I am not easily flattered). Also he told the interviewees that the stone in the ring he pretended to ‘make’ for me was explicitly “better than a diamond”. But 16 years or so later it was shown by a top professional jeweler to be a synthetic sapphire, worth very little too. Is that better than a diamond? Awle can twist things to extremes but no one will really believe him. Moreover, Sai Baba blessed the book I wrote about him, before I was roughly awakened to his murder involvement by his very close servitor, V.K. Narasimhan. Had Sai Baba known this in advance, he would surely never have let me get such close access as an observational basis for learning the depth and breadth of his deceptions. Besides, the ‘diamonds’ Sai Baba gives away have always been shown to be false gems so far and none have been assayed by professionals and proven genuine!

The extreme defenders of Sai Baba’s deceits like Bon Giovanni and – also sexual abuses as in the cases of  Ram Das Awle, Gerald Moreno and Lisa de Witt – often demonstrate for us how true are the following words of the researcher of hypnosis and subliminal programming, Dick Sutphen: “Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been “shown the light” …or have been transformed in miraculous ways.” (from ‘The Battle for your Mind’). See Harassment charge against Bon G. on Keralite person’s website

Here is another example of what kind of mentality a large number of Sathya Sai Baba followers have

K. RAM MANOHAR
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vayuputra39@gmail.com
122.164.250.24

The sexual abuse by Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is only an another form of expression of His Love towards His fellow devotees all across the globe. There must be some good results coming on their way to all those who came in close contact with Swami.

THEIR SPIRITUAL WELLNESS IS ASSURED AS WELL AS MATERIAL LIFE.

No comment to preposterous statements is merited.                    Note The Sai Critic site was closed down in 2013:-sai-critic-suspended

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Bon Giovanni refuted firmly by Afshin ‘Said’ Khorramshahgol

Posted by robertpriddy on September 16, 2011

Though this mail is not recent, it explains very well many of the misconceptions about Sathya Sai Baba and his sexual abuses of boys and young men and illustrates the psychological mechanism of intense denial, as witnessed in the confused and deluded ideas of Bon Giovanni, who presents himself as a ‘Sai Critic’ so as to try to confuse those searching for the facts about Sathya Sai Baba’s deceptions. Said Khorramshahgol is one of the most articulate of those sexually abused by Sathya Sai Baba, and his accounts are well worth reading if one has any doubt tht SB actually abuses to satisfy his own desires! His main testimony is found here

Sathya Sai Baba and Spiritual Molestation–a critique by Said

Author: Said Publisher: The NEURAL SURFER Publication date: June 1997

E-mail David Christopher Lane directly at dlane@weber.ucsd.edu

From: Said Khorramshahgol
To: “‘dlane@weber.ucsd.edu’”
Subject: Response to Bon
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:39:58 -0700

Hello Professor Lane, the following is another response to Bon’s response to my first posting.
Regards,
Afshin.

As to not confuse the readers between Bon’s writings and my own, Bon’s writings will be inside double parenthesis. 20

((These can manifest as suffering, especially when addressing specifics. That may explain why the fellows offer but few specifics,
then usually embroider the facts with hyperbole, resulting in their frequent assumptions.))

I would like everyone to see what I have based my based my opinion of Raju – aka Sai Baba, his last name – so that they can choose if they are facts or assumptions as Bon claims. They are the following:
1. I have seen three movies with some very clear, close shots of Baba cheating on “materializations” of “holy” ash, a necklace, and either another necklace or a rings, I don’t remember which one.
2. I have had Raju touch my testicle some five or six times. He has hugged me while touching me. He has breathed hard and made sexual noises. So, I have concluded that he was touching me in a sexual way.
3. Raju has directed me to touch his testicle by taking my hand and rubbing it against his testicle. Further, he made loud sexual noises.
So, I have come to the conclusion that he was sexually aroused and enjoying it.

I would like Bon to answer the following:
1. If Raju was healing something in my testicle, why did he hug me? Why did he have to hug me to do so?
2. If Raju was healing something in my testicle, why did he make sexual noises?
3. If Raju was healing something in my testicle, why did he breathe harder?
4. Why did Raju have me touch his testicle?20
5. If Raju was trying to perhaps teach me something or whatever other answer you have come up with, why did Raju make sexual noises while he directed me to touch him?
6. Can you point out what assumptions I have made?
7. Can you point out how I have embroidered the facts with hyperbole?

((Those who have met Sai may however differ or agree with Said or with me, but surely those who at least read Sai’s teachings, instead of only the comments by men like me or Said, might recall that Swami again and again advises folks to build their lives and their faiths NOT ON HIS PERSON, >NOT ON STORIES ABOUT HIM, GOOD OR BAD, but rather on their own experience, and to use that resulting basis of direct experience to develop keen attention, and with that to develop unbiased insight.))

It might not be wise to listen to others views at times, but you can’t generalize and say you should never listen to other’s views regarding someone else. So, Raju, the all knowing, is wrong when it comes to this point. You are thinking based on your faith in Raju. You have accepted that he is God and you are thinking that each person has a different experience and belief regarding Raju, a belief which is strong within Raju’s followers. So, as a result you are saying no one should judge Raju based on anyone else’s experiences solely based on your belief that he is God and his teachings are the Truth. But to me and to a major majority of people he is just a human being and not what you think he is. We, as logical human beings can listen to other people’s experiences regarding Raju. To everyone who is not a Raju follower, it becomes more clear that Raju is a homosexual and a charlatan if two people have the same experiences with him. Try all you want to convince them to forget our experiences, but we, they won’t be able to forget about similar accusations of sexual abuse, specially if they have kids.
I just wanted to give you a report of how we think down here.

Apparently you are too high and your mind too twisted and you need us to clear how logical thinking can be. And also, doesn’t Raju say that the character of the guru is important. I have read his teachings regarding the characteristics of a guru. He mentions many things about recognizing the qualities of the character of the guru. So, why does Raju and you not want others to examine the character of Raju? I will tell everyone why you and Raju want people to go there and see Raju up close. It is about Raju wanting people to be mesmerized with the idea of seeing miracles and seeing the source of these miracles and wanting to talk to him, etc. In the next few paragraphs I will explain how a person feels and why they feel that way when they go to see Raju the first time.

((That [experiencing Raju first hand] is the basis for sadhana, or spiritual discipline. Experience like that you see does example how understanding itself is best realized while *living* a teaching, not dwelling in imaginary states or assumed relationships))

Bon, there are two kinds of experiences, inner and outer. The outer is also important, even in cases such as studying Raju. Outer experiences can be even good for your spirituality, don’t you agree? It can even save you from fraud teachers who can ruin your life, don’t you agree?
I am sure you agree, and so how can you ask non-devotees to go and see Raju without considering my side of the story? If I am right about Raju, then their lives are ruined, agree? I am sure you agree, so how can you make such a suggestion? I know how you make a suggestion like
that, you are high and your mind is twisted, you don’t think logically as we do down here. You base your reasoning on your faith. You think that what Raju says is the Truth and most beneficial – as Raju devotees believe. So, your logical mind which would tell you “what if I am wrong and Raju is a fake” does not function. All your reasoning is shadowed by your faith, I am not saying you don’t have reasoning. Reasoning is a
sequence of if…then…else statements. But your if statement starts with the supposition that Raju is God. Can you undrestand? I would like to tell everyone how one feels when one goes to see Raju for the first time and why you feel as such. Imagine being told that someone has many millions of follower, he has risen the dead, many times, he can read your mind, tell of your past, your future, AND HE PERFORMS MIRACLES DAILY by creating holy ash, which is supposed to heal the sick and help those in need. Wouldn’t your mind boggle over that?
Even if you are very skeptical at first, after hearing about his many miracles for a while or hearing them from a couple of people, you might agree to check it out for yourself. You have also been told that this person not only claims to be God, he also claims that you are God. The effect this kind of statement has is shown by the following:
When he says you are also God in order to calm your mind over his claim to be God; the claim that you are also God, also makes you feel like there must be something I don’t understand about his philosophy, how can he and I be God? So, you leave it alone for the time being.
So you go to see Raju. You are very excited because this person is supposed to be a very special person indeed – the great miracles that you have been told comes to your mind. This is apparent in many books about “experiences” of people when they met Raju for the first time. I have read many stories where the people are thinking about so many different things while they are going to see him. You get excited and you can’t help it. This kind of excitement can be very soothing just like a spiritual experience and ecstasy. Also, you are very excited because you are waiting for that very first time that you will see a miracle. This is also evident in “experiences” of people who went to see Raju for the first time. Many write about looking for that first miracle. So your mind is boggling over the prospects of perhaps meeting a holy person who can do great miracles. Another thing is that on the first trip, if not everyone, a major majority of people want Raju to notice them and be so very kind to them. These people could be pure skeptics, but they feel that way anyhow. So, you also want a great deal of attention from Raju. You go there, and Raju doesn’t pay any attention to you for a while. This is also what many devotees have claimed or written in their books. After a week or two of waiting for Raju to notice you, you are becoming very upset and at the same time more excited. After living within thousands of devotees and constantly being told of Raju’s miracles, you are getting very excited – after all it could be true that he is doing miracles, that he is God – and you want him to notice you more. Another thing that could be nice is for you to talk to Raju face to face, which is only possible in an interview. You ask for it and you want it so bad. And finally, one day Baba looks at you or starts to notice you or talks to you. You feel like you are in heaven. Truly, you feel in a kind of spiritual ecstasy.
You know why because anytime, anyone wants something so bad and they get it, they get very happy. In your situation, while the thought that Raju might be God is in the back of your head-and most probably it has strengthened after two weeks of waiting and conversing with Raju devotees –, this feeling of happiness gets a kind of spirituality in your high. You will say and I have “WOW, this person who might be God-and whom I wanted so much to notice me-has finally noticed me!” If you observe your emotions and thoughts while you are there then you will see it for yourself. Unfortunately, the high and the ever increasing and intensifying idea that Raju might be God and the fact that we really would love to see God face to face makes it hard to face our real emotions and makes it hard to think about it logically. Wouldn’t it be great to see God face to face – specially after you have been there for two weeks and the idea that he might be God is getting stronger day by day? This is the feeling that Bon wants you to get. I, as a devotee, used to tell everyone that to see Raju is to love Raju, for this very reason. All Raju devotees think that way, because we used to talk about the first meetings with Baba, the first time he looked at us, etc. Bon is a pervert, he doesn’t want you to go there to examine Raju, he wants you to go there and get high and illogical. I am sure Jed would agree with me on this. Bon is a liar. So now you know Bon’s intentions and his personality. Every Raju devotee believes that their first visit to Raju is their best. That is because the first time they go there, they want to see miracles and Raju palys mind games with them by not paying attention to them for a while, etc. All that I have said above applies to the first trip. The next trips become more normal. In the second and consequent trips you feels very high for the first week – after all you are going to see your God, someone you are dedicating your life to, and someone whom you love – and then wears off.

((However, those who wish to examine Sai for character flaws may certainly do so if they find that beneficial, but surely might do well then to at least go and see him directly, so as to fully examine their day to day lives and his day to day life, both in outer appearance as well as in regard to his teaching, to see if that has value or not.))

My reasons why you feel the way you do when you go to see Raju explains why Bon is asking everyone to go and see Baba without trying to examine Raju for character flaws. Bon wants everyone to go there and get high and not deal with Raju’s character. Isn’t it better to also test the character of someone who says he is God? Shouldn’t that be the first step in your research on Raju and his claim to be God? I would appreciate it if someone else, a third party could respond to this question.

((Instead, if they do as Said suggests, if one instead pays attention to stories, or to movies, or to hearsay or imaginings, as he himself brags that he has done, one gets no actual experience, no understanding, and no insight. Rather one gets what Said has: ‘opinion’ which is frankly more bias than anything else, but opinion which masks itself as if “objective fact”.))

Well, your opinions are facts, but mine have no ground, they are just opinions, right? Your logic there is as twisted as it has been throughout this reply. Also, Bon’s problem here is that he puts too much emphasis on the plays of his mind. Within the Raju devotees, it is very popular to “get within” and experience things within. All the “bad” emotions are destroyed, all “good” emotions are placed there, if possible, all thoughts and emotions are not only watched but are directed, so instead of letting your thoughts and emotions to come out, you suppress all thoughts and emotions and only try to have “good” emotions and thoughts. In this process, you have to deal with so many difficulties and you gain experience as to how to control your thoughts and emotions, if you are strong enough. This can be seen as spiritual to those who follow that path. And these are the experiences which Bon speaks of. When I first became a Raju follower, I used to read and hear of getting within, after a while, I was so involved with controlling my thoughts and emotions, I was constantly, by the second, by the thought watched and tried to control my thoughts and emotions. Before I knew it, I was only aware of my thoughts and emotions, I had gone within. But suppressing all thoughts and emotions is not true spirituality. It will just make all the suppressed thoughts stronger and they keep coming back. True spirituality is supposed to be constant, not fighting all thoughts. So, Bon is living within himself fighting emotions and thoughts and he feels good for overcoming some – although they come back later – and he feels bad for losing. For him this is a reality and a spiritual path of “cleansing”. All else is non reality, the outside world is non-reality as they have been told by Raju. So, movies that show Raju cheat are not important, what is important is that they are fanatically trying to fight their thoughts and emotions and that is important and that is reality. It is hard for me to explain it to you. Unless you have lived this kind of life, you wouldn’t understand. I tried my best to explain it to all and show where Bon is coming from. I welcome all those who have lived this kind of life and understand, to respond.

(( …. I have based my views only on my own experience and study, not on guesses, stories, movies, or hearsay.))

Can you please share some of these experiences with us. Ever since the first time I talked to you, you keep telling me and everyone else that your faith comes from inner experiences and that nothing else matters. Please share some of your experiences with us so that perhaps some of us will be able to benefit from them. If your experiences are strong
enough to keep you a devotee after semi-accepting that Raju cheats on his miracles, then it must be strong enough to at least change someone else’s mind. If you can save one person’s life by taking them to Raju, then your life has been worthwhile, so please share your experiences with us.

((That means for him it was a cult, but it is my direct experience that there is nothing “real” about Said’s claims, nothing cultlike in Sai’s organization-even though there may certainly be cult-followers like Said around, as there are in any large spiritual organization.))

Why should people believe you that Raju’s organization is not a cult? You haven’t given them any proof. I have at least told them of my “opinion”, or “imaginations” as you call them, namely three movies which they can watch. What have you given as proof that Raju is not a cult master? All you have said is my experiences are that he is God and you expect all to believe that first of all you are saying the truth and second of all your experiences are not a play of your imaginations. Give proof Bon and stop telling us we have opinions and imaginations until you yourself give some proof.

((However, one may of course deduce based on hearsay and appearances, instead of direct observation and experience. Frankly I think Said examples that rather clearly, and so hope you will use his example to avoid such calamity.))

Bon, I was a devotee of Raju for three years and I had seven interviews and many private ones both with my group and Raju, with me and Raju and also, once he called me in with another group of people for a private interview. I have had many direct observations and experience. More than you have. I just remembered something. Once even Raju kissed me on the cheek while he was hugging me, has he done that to you? Has he ever played with your dick? Has he ever hugged you? He hugged me at least 5 times. As you see, I have had experiences and I found out that under the cake, there was a large pile of shit in the bucket, which examplifies what people will find in Raju. And you are right, I hope that people will take my example to avoid such calamity, I really hope so.

((Do you think Swami is only what Said, or I, (or Lane, or you) think him to be? ))

Your opinion above is nothing but twisted thinking based on faith. As an ex-Raju devotee I know what you are thinking. It is the belief of Raju followers that Raju is beyond all people’s comprehension and so Bon says “Do you think _____ is only what Said, or I, (or Lane, or you) think him to be?” It is their belief that no one can understand Raju’s
reality since a finite mind cannot understand the infinite. They also believe that Raju and his actions are a mystery to all as is written in a book by Hislop, a devotee of Raju. So, if Raju’s personality and his actions are a mystery, why should we go and see him since you, who have been with Raju for twenty or more years believe that he is a mystery? 20 Here I am going to explain to all as to why Raju followers find him a mystery. For example, Raju tells a devotee something. The devotee starts thinking why did Raju tell me this? Could it be that he loves me? Could it be that he saw something in me and he wants to change it?
Could it be that he saw something in my future which is threatening to my life? As a devotee of Raju I used to think this was and so did my Raju friends. We used to talk about this sometimes. So, with all these questions, Raju’s intentions remain a mystery as he also stays a mystery. Also, this kind of thinking made me feel that Baba might be killing a bird with one stone. Could there be more than one answer to the above questions? If so, then Raju is operating in many different levels as is also believed by Raju followers. So, as you see, this kind of faith is all based on their ignorace. If Bon disagrees, let him give at least two instances of his experiences which proved to him that Raju operates on different levels.

((Students who persevere do find that one way Swami teaches is to bring doubts *forward*, INTO EXPERIENCE, so they can be examined. Bringing doubts to light is part of his job as a TEACHER, as even Jed and Said example, albeit grudgingly. Why Jed and Said chose to not examine their doubts so much as to instead apparently deduce instead Sai was at fault, is what Lane’s page serves to focus on, if one wishes. Of course David’s page also offers the chance to mindlessly gloat over gossip, if one wishes that. ))

You are suggesting that after seeing three movies that expose Raju’s “miracles” as frauds, and after being molested by him, I should have fought all doubts and held on to faith? Isn’t that what the followers of the raping guru did? So, since they fought their doubts and found the “truth” about why their guru raped those women – they came to
believe that the guru who had no sexual desires or feelings, was out to release the sexual energy of those women who were suppressing them; this way they could concentrate on their spiritual exercises – then are you suggesting that they are more spiritual people now? Also, are you suggesting that the guru is always pure and we have to se all shit and overcome doubts? As you see your reasoning works as I have said. It goes as “Raju is God, then he is pure and couldn’t have lied about his powers, couldn’t have molested those kids. His intentions are always pure. So, these doubts are unfounded and should be destroyed and replaced by faith.” BY KILLING DOUBT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE Raju A GOD OR PURE.

((No one charged them any fees or dues, and no one made them go into interview, or stay, or leave– yet they blame Sai as if he somehow tricked them.))

We didn’t go to India or interviews on our own accord, we were brain washed.

((They seem convinced a teacher can act only as they wish, poor fellows. No wonder then they are furious with Sai Baba, for he fits no mould whatsoever.))

If Raju doesn’t fit the mould of a teacher, a pure person, or God, then most probably he is not a teacher, a pure person or God! Also, please read my account, explained above, of how Raju’s devotees believe that Raju is a man of mystery and why they think that Raju does not fit anyone’s understanding. It will give you a lot of insight in Bon’s twisted thought patterns as expressed in his above statement. Thanks for your time. Please e-mail me with any info, questions or suggestions. Thank you.

Regards,
Afshin.

E-mail The Neural Surfer directly at dlane@weber.ucsd.edu

SAID ALSO REFUTES THE FANATICAL GERALD JOE MORENO HERE
PLEASE NOT ALSO THAT BON GIOVANNI HARASSES OTHERS ON THE INTERNET – SEE HERE http://www.scindrkl.tk/sai-bababon-giovanni-harassment

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Outright defenders of sexual abuse by Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on June 17, 2008

Members of the Sathya Sai Organization, including some office-bearers, have circulated to many devotees a printed version of a truly abject rationalization of homosexual abuses on boys and young men of the crudest sort by Sathya Sai Baba.

The document is still found on the web, posted there years ago by a devotee – Ram Das Awle – who relates that he was inspired and personally blessed at darsan by Sathya Sai Baba to publish his thoughts! See here (http://www.saibaba-aclearview.com/contents1.html)

That the International Sathya Sai Organisation has not once refuted this disgusting and outrageous ‘explanation’ of why Sathya Sai Baba sexually abuses young males is a major blot on its reputation, – already in question for a long list of reasons, not least unaccountability to anyone but Sathya Sai Baba and complete failure to exercise duty of care and mandatory reporting to the public and prospective young male visitors to the ashrams.

Evidence from many quarters through many years has been available accusing Sai Baba in most credible ways, showing complete acquaintance with the ashram, interviews and the way Sai Baba operates to groom and seduce youth.

The US devotee Bon Giovanni – an unconcerned apologist for Sai Baba’s trickeries and other misdemeanours – posted the article at “SAI BABA and SEX: A Clear View” by Ram Das Awle, who accepts that sexual abuses occur and then tries to fit the facts onto the Procrustean bed of total belief that Sathya Sai Baba is God and has inscrutable divine reasons and a right to do what he thinks fit for a follower to experience, whatever the perversion or vile act by our ‘merely human’ standards (the anal rape of minors included).

Awle admits that sexual interventions by Sathya Sai Baba are a fact and he further supports and ‘explains’ various of the sexual perversions for which he stands accused as ‘spiritual healing’ and control of sexual urges! He justifies this at length too! This even evidently convinces others who defend Sai Baba in every possible way by attacking all alleging victims along with all other critics of Sathya Sai Baba. One such miscreant has declared he believed Sathya Sai Baba to be a sexual abuser - for several years – while he poured out web pages to defend the same abuser! [see the evidence here: http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/31/JoeFAQ.htm#abu ] His constant contrived spin tried to show the critics in the worst possible light, going to any length to assassinate their character in an unending array of ways that lawyers in three countries have opined as highly libellous, defamatory and actionable. Because he just looked too ridiculous and immoral defending the sex abuser on a daily basis, this fanatic grasped the first opportunity to flip flop – when a case by Alaya Rahm against the US Sathya Sai leaders had to be withdrawn because it transpired that there was no incorporated organization to sue. Despite that, Alaya Rahm maintains every word he has testified against Sathya Sai Baba, as do his parents!

Ram Das Awle is indeed a person of what he himself claims is “fervid imagination”! His views are allegedly largely obtained from a pamphlet circulated by ‘The Kundalini Foundation for Self-Realisation’, New Delhi, founded by a certain Dr. Joshua Stone. Awle is a dyed-in-the-wool ‘true believer’, see http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/6/Defence_of_Sai_Baba_sexual_abuses.htm #awfulawle

Having raised the defense of sexually perverse abuses to the level of pseudo-theology, Ram Das Awle admits his acceptance of the sex abuse allegations and natural confusion but then tells how he thinks he was inspired to surmount it by his “fervid imagination”. Very apt!

That any of this could be taken seriously by so many followers as it evidently is would support the belief that – according to fundamentalist Hindu beliefs – we are indeed in the Dark Age of Kali in which immorality reigns. If this were so, then the presence of full-blown pedophile Divine Incarnation (‘Purna’ Avatar) whose (sex) Life is his Message would fit nicely! Awle’s self-admitted “imaginative fervour” is nothing more or less than that… imagination. It is a classic example of the extremes of confused thinking Sai devotees can and do descend to when their faith in him is challenged by the awful facts.

Gerald Joe Moreno: The most active and widely publicised defender on the Internet of Sathya Sai Baba and all connected with him – and of almost whatever they say – is a middle-aged single man living in Las Cruces (New Mexico). Moreno is in denial about everything negative about it all, and according to law he was sexually molested by Sai Baba (the details are described by him – ‘oiling in private on the lower stomach’ (a typical kind of euphemism for oiling/massaging of the genitals). The extent of Moreno’s depredations and their cranky – often low-minded – nature are very considerable. He attacks and tries in all ways he can possibly contrive to assassinate the characters of all critics of Sathya Sai Baba (at least 100 are treated thus) and he also does the same to those who criticize or testify against the convicted life-serving rapist and murderer, Swami Premananda of Tiruvannamalai, ‘Amma the ‘hugging mother’ (Mata Amritanandamayi – née Sudhamani – of Kerala) and other Indian gurus who are under suspicion of sexual crimes. Here are links to some of the pages that have been written by various authors who have been attacked by Moreno.

See also:- http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/10/Sathyasaiorganization_open_letter.html
http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/sai-baba-world-cult-leaders-fail-to-meet-concerns-on-libel/

http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/sathya-sai-baba-organization-and-libel-and-disinformation/

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