Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

Exposing major deceits by guru Sathya Sai Baba in India, incl. murders cover-up & widely alleged sexual abuse

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Ex-Industries Minister Dr. J Geetha Reddy made thousands visit Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on September 30, 2014

Industry Minister Dr. Geetha Reddy at the fundral of Sai Baba

Industry Minister Dr. Geetha Reddy at the fundral of Sai Baba

One of those who helps investigate matters concerning the exposé has brought my attention to a female Indian Industry Minister who was very deeply involved with Sathya Sai Baba. There was an interview with Dr. Reddy which proves that she was with Sathya Sai Baba throughout his entire hospitalisation, save for a few days due to her other pressing engagements. She had been a very privileged VVIP for well over 10 years, though there are few media reports on the closeness of this connection and all that it most likely implied. Most of the sparse mentions of her and Sai Baba on the www are shown below (click on the thumbnail images to read the various media reports). She was the only woman shown close to the casket during the funeral celebration in the Kulwant Hall and was closer to the casket than Sai Baba’s female family members.

 This minister was but one of many, of course, who regularly visited Sai Baba at Prashanthi Nilayam, Puttaparthi, as well as Prime Ministers and Presidents of India, many of whom tended to bring huge entourages with them.  It is reported that Ms. Reddy’s own electoral supporters were brought along by her in full buses on junkets (free meals and rooms etc.)  to fill out the Kulwant Hall and get the best places for Sai Baba darsans.  This opens up a new aspect on the latter years of Sai Baba – after he became so widely accused of sexual and other abuses and himself became an invalid in a wheelchair. The considerable and increasing fall-off in foreign visitors from 2000 onwards (visible on all photos of darshans in those years) was evidently a deficit which the Prashanthi officials, necessarily acting with Sai Baba’s go-ahead, tried to replace by such means. Not least, the railway authorities offered free rail travel to and from Puttaparthi to all who would visit as ‘service workers’, which all members of the organisation were supposed to be the tourist authorities of Andhra Pradesh recommended visits to Sai Baba ashrams as a foreign tourist attraction and included Puttaparti on the main pilgrimage agenda, which provides very popular tours of temples and holy spots, often lasting several days and even weeks. This strongly suggests that other VIPs might well have been arranging ‘filler’ devotees to make it look like there were many more  people than there actually were!


reddy-sbimage  Dr.GeethaReddy-at-coffin
Geetha_blasts Reddy-keynote-youth
 reddy-sb-health J Geetha Reddy

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Sai Baba hid in India to escape justice

Posted by robertpriddy on September 27, 2014

The Alaya Rahm case which eventually had to be withdrawn was a fiasco due to the incompetence of his U.S. attorney. The dissident long-term U.S. devotee, Glen Meloy, had helped Alaya Rahm to find that attorney on a no-win-no-fee basis (i.e. without cost to Alaya, who had no means for it himself). The attorney stood to get all compensation that a win could bring. Unfortunately, Glen Meloy who was   totally dedicated to the cause and had lots of good contacts, died before the case came to court. The lawyer evidently failed to investigate elementary facts.  Most importantly, he did not even know that Sathya Sai Baba could not be sued from the USA! Sai Baba lived in India. California did not have reciprocal jurisdiction rights against an out-of-country defendant and one could not therefore use California state subpoena powers as the defendant was not subject to the powers of the Hague Treaty. The case was heard by Judge John M. Watson of the Superior Court, County of Orange, California, on April 28th, 2006.

Further, there was no legal entity in the United States against which a lawsuit demanding responsibility of Goldstein and other key directors of the Sathya Sai Society of America could be brought. Pursuant to declarations under penalty of perjury, The Sathya Sai Society of America confirmed they were a bookstore…nothing more. The Sathya Sai Organisation had not then been registered in the USA since it had set itself up in ways to avoid legal accountability and full public scrutiny. Alaya had gone to India of his own free will and so no one could be held responsible for misinforming him about Sai Baba. Because of other legalistic stumbling blocks, compelling testimony could not be presented.   

For example, evidence of dereliction of duty of care by leaders of the Sathya Sai Organization or evidence from other families and individuals who alleged sexual abuse by Sathya Sai Baba could not be brought forward. Clearly, the attorney’s aim had been to collect compensation of the case turned out well, but had nothing to lose himself. He washed his hands of it as soon as he saw that it was not going to get anywhere. The attorney caused Alaya Rahm to have to withdraw the case! This, of course, did NOT disprove the truth of his allegations, which have been widely documented (such as in the BBC documentary ‘The Secret Swami‘) and which was never challenged by the Sathya Sai Organisation as they had no chance whatever of winning any case against him or the BBC.

The following mail was sent to Barry Pittard by the former close friend and helper of Sai Baba’s sisters, Eileen Weed. She was commenting on the full explanation of the case here Alaya Rahm – testimony and lawsuit concerning Sathya Sai Baba. This was  after she had become disillusioned of Sathya Sai Baba and by the entire Sai cult:-

13 July 2006

Hello Barry,

I have gone through the document, and consider it quite thorough and informative. I think it explains everything very clearly. Thanks for your great work. We need to get the word out, after the shameless spreading of victory” by the devotees. Thanks again, Eileen

Leading office-bearers who have attempted to expose the truth are always closed out of the Sathya Sai Organization. Therefore, lower echelon and rank-and-file members cannot deliberate on the facts. Sai Baba has lied about dissenting former members and has called THEM “Judases”, “cawing crows”, “The lawsuit against Sai Baba (individually) was dropped because the judge indicated in the initial court appearance that he did not wish to see us pursue a case against an OUT- of-country defendant that is not a signatory to the Hague Treaty.

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Inner voice, inner messages from Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on September 26, 2014

Among the very many Sathya Sai Baba devotees, and especially among those who had only limited contact with him in interviews, their reliance on some kind of claimed ‘inner voice’, ‘inner message’ and such intuitions were very widespread ever since early days. I have met many who claim to have received his instructions through some telepathic or extra-sensory means (even regarding other people and not least myself!). There are any number of books and articles written by such people who claim the content came directly from Sathya Sai Baba. This one can most certainly doubt, not least since some of the more blatant examples have been rejected by Sai Baba himself through notices his journal (Sanathana Sarathi). To take any of these ‘secondary’ sources as genuine is to risk relying on fancy and imaginings and at worst on outright fraud.

One of those who was very well placed to observe these matters and the reactions of Sai Baba against many of them as known to the permanent residents of Puttaparthi was Eileen Weed, also called ‘Divya’, who known to many and to most US devotees as the only foreign follower who bothered to master Telugu and who lived in the ashram in close connection with Sai Baba’s family (living and serving his elder sister, Venkamma, for many years right up until her death, when Divya was the last person to see her alive). Divya wrote letter home regularly and preserved them, much later having posted them on the internet. They make extremely interesting reading for many reasons, not least of which is how they record much that was never told or released by Sai Baba’s staff of censors. Eileen Weed became disaffected in 2005 after two decades, mostly spend at Prashanthi Nilayam. While still a devotee trying to understand and reconcile Sai Baba’s behaviour and words she wrote on the inner voice problematic:-

3 Oct: It seems around here most Indians are interested in each others business to the extreme, foreigners aren’t so much like that. Foreigners concentrate mostly on inner voice and guidance, which many times turns out to be wrong, by the way. Or contradicted by Swami Himself in the interview room. Of the ones who have gone mad here, ALL of them started in this “Inner Message” way. I’m glad I don’t have messages. I just act and if Swami doesn’t approve, it’s stopped (at least I trust it will be!). Also, with people’s messages, they strangely suddenly change according to situation. For example, “inside Swami” will say to stay on longer, He’ll do a miracle with their visa. When no miracle is done (even after days/weeks of confirming “signs” and “guidance” from “Swami”), “Swami” suddenly changes His story and tells them it’s time to go. With these people, I dare not give advice, they won’t listen and will instead turn verbally violent, as if I’m rejecting the true God’s Will. So I listen quietly. Sometimes what inside Swami says is right, but not usually. The question is (since these people are so convinced): is Sai truly giving prankster advice, simply to tease and churn and rid them of karma? Or is it all their ego and mind? Or both? Or neither? Never mind, we leave it to Swami! (see source)

And Divya also makes clear what she knew of Sai Baba’s views on the ‘inner voice’ so many claimed to hear from him:-

September 15. 1992
Beware of False Messages
As for my own opinions, I have reason to seriously doubt your sanity! One must be VERY careful of inner messages. 80 many devotees have become literally insane because of inner messages & voices! And have been misled by “representatives” with authentic “voices”. With all due respect to your Canadian experiences, I NEVER talked to any psychics and I have NOTHING TO DO with whatever they say about me! How many times has Swami warned us about these sorts of people? You may have nice experiences but PLEASE Beware. How many people here disregard our Swami‘s words and follow so-called “inner messages”! How they suffer, so many, because Swami throws them out of the ashram for it.
There are still many around the world who believe in their ‘inner voice’ and think it is Sai Baba instructing them. It is really their own mind only, and the person’s genuine ‘inner voice’ is the conscience and sense of personal responsibility. The imagined ‘extra-sensory’ inner voice most often conforms with their own desires and is thus a form of self-deception. Relying on such subjective feelings or thoughts as coming from outside oneself is a form of cognitive delusion, well-known in psychiatry. The countless ‘spiritual’ writers and  guides who claim to channel the thoughts of spiritual entities mislead countless people the world and over can be safely assumed to be bogus (unless otherwise definitively proved by some means so far unknown to science).

See for example Typical Sai apologist – Rita Bruce Sai-VIP
Neurology throws light on ‘hearing God’s word’, ‘channelling’
Mediumism gradually undermined by science

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Cleric kills man on promise to bring him back to life!

Posted by robertpriddy on September 22, 2014

‘Incredible India’ indeed! This is the country where one can not only get away with murder (70% of murder cases are never solved) but also get a religious believer to let himself be murdered willingly by a Muslim ‘pir’. ‘Pir’  is a title for a Sufi master, Muslim Sheik or Hazrat (Arabic for ‘Old Man’). The title is often translated into English as “saint”. These individuals are often believed to have super-normal powers of the kind Sathya Sai Baba also claimed to have, being believed in by millions in India, not only in rural areas but also widely in cities and even in some of the ruling elite. The following is yet another macabre example of the consequences of these beliefs in super-human powers, black magic and the wealth of primitive superstitions known to virtually every Indian and also accepted very widely:-



Black Magic was confirmed by Sathya Sai Baba, who is worshipped by the current Prime Minister Modi, and the President of India plus a long series of its former PMs, Presidents, top judicial figures and many more. This shows the degenerate nature of the elite who supported and covered up for him, which the did because they had committed themselves to him – and hence their political and professional prestige – well before his crimes were discovered and testified to on such a wide scale!

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Sathya Sai School, Leicester, fails to open

Posted by robertpriddy on September 20, 2014



The Sathya Sai School, Leicester, which should have opened for the autumn term last month, is closed to date. Reportedly, the remaining pupils have left as the school ran out of funds, which the UK Sathya Sai Trust refused to provide any longer.  The law firm that represents the UK Sathya Sai Trust is Avery Emerson, Ilford Essex.  It seems this is the death knell for the school unless they are successful in court in future. It must surely be best for the community that a school ceases to exist where the head teacher has been condemned widely for bullying of children and unfair practices against certain parents, yet who threatened parents with a lawsuit after they had been reported to the Leicester social services. Moreover, the physical education teacher, Mr. Cheng Hoe Lim, husband of headmistress Mrs. Usha Lim was accused of sexual harassment of another teacher… not the ideal environment for young children! Mr. Cheng Ho Lim also travels around as a charlatan ‘healer’, recently to the Netherlands, claiming the ethereal assistance of deceased Sathya Sai Baba and his ‘vibuthi’ (i.e. the ‘holy’ ashes of cow dung, rice husks and/or sandalwood). Sathya Sai Baba often denied that he had ever delegated any such powers to any individual.

Formerly, a newly appointed head of the Sathya Sai World Fund education committee, Australian Dr Pal Dhall, and other international delegates acted against the Leicester Sai School.  Mr Kalyan Ray (head of the education committee Sri Sathya Sai World Fund) was relieved of his post as was also, Dr Madhavi Majmudar female director on the education committee, the reason being their complicity in sweeping matters under the carpet and ignoring the complaints of the parents.

The activities of the Leicester Sai school caused long-running confrontations within and between various bodies and representatives of the rich and influential Sathya Sai cult in India, the UK, leading to the sacking of the US citizen Dr. Michael Goldstein, International Chairman of the Sathya Sai Organisation and appointed permanently by Sathya Sai Baba himself. Mrs. Usha Lim and her supporters later refused to remove the Sathya Sai name from the school after this was demanded by the central Sai Baba educational body under the official Prashanthi Council in Puttaparthi, India. In addition to this, the Ofsted Commission’s latest report on the school was very negative and can be seen below right (click on image to zoom in).

Sathya Sai School, Leicester,  fights to survive The Sathya Sai Trust owns the school building at Leicester and have warned the school that if they do not pay the previous years rent and if their headteacher Mrs. Lim is not removed then they want the school to vacate the premises. On the contrary the schools states that the trust owns them money.

Leicester Sathya Sai School vibuthi fraud  April 29, 2014  The Leicester Sathya Sai School lost its accreditation as a Sai Baba institution after a major scandal of child abuse and sexual harassment of a female teacher was investigated, firstly by Leicester social services, subsequently by various ‘officials’ of the Sathya Sai Organisation in Uk and also by the overarching International Sai Baba authorities in India.

Leicester Sathya Sai School sackings April 26, 2013  As of August 18, the Sathya Sai School in Leicester has been disowned by the Sathya Sai Organisation. This was clearly a (very belated) damage-limitation exercise by the Sathya Sai Organisation which – despite great efforts and much international back and forth – did not succeed in getting the main culprits – i.e. the headmistress […]

Leicester Sathya Sai school & Michael Goldstein’s dismissal March 30, 2013  The slogan of this private faith school, where almost only for Indian devotees of Sai Baba send their defenceless children in Leicester is “a centre of human excellence”. According to a series of reports I have received about the situation there, this could hardly be further from the real situation. That the children ARE defenceless […]

Sathya Sai school, Leicester harassment case September 11, 2012  Sathya Sai School Leicester rejected by Sri Sathya Sai World Foundation Report: April 26th, 2013. Leicester Sathya Sai School sackings – click to go to latest news September 11, 2012: I am informed that the parents who could not afford to pay full fees to the Leicester Sathya Sai […] 

Sathya Sai Schools: Leicester, Puttaparthi, Gothenburg etc. up-date 27/11/12 July 20, 2012 Dr. Michael Goldstein, who was trying to cover over the entire matter at Leicester Sathya Sai school has already been replaced as Chairman of the Sri Sathya Sai World Foundation by a certain Gary Beltz. In short, the rule of man picked  by the self-proclaimed omnipotent God Incarnate to lead the International Sai Organisation was overruled by […]

Love and Light – Sathya Sai Organization UK & Leicester Sai school July 6, 2009  A comment was made to this blog as follows:- “The headteacher is accused of bullying, emotional abuse, physical punishment of children. Parents complained to the social services who conducted an inquiry which proved true.”  … “The top officials at Puttaparthy etc. are busy protecting their names and the headteacher’s.

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Lookback at some overlooked Sai Baba achievements

Posted by robertpriddy on September 19, 2014

Here are some reminders of the very speckled career of the self-proclaimed Creator of the Universe, take your pick.
(The sexual abuses, murder involvement and bribery are not specified as such in this list)

Death of Sathya Sai Baba April 24th, 2011 Sai Baba stated many times that he would never age or suffer ill-health due to his “purity, patience and perseverance”. But for a decade before his very drawn-out organ failures and death pangs in 2011, he had been a wheel-chair invalid and he showed gradual loss of clear speech, visible signs of ageing, weight loss and other physical degeneration. The true cause of his death was covered up with a legally invalid death certificate stating he died of ‘heart failure’, despite massive weight loss and dysfunction of every major organ, while the stated day of his death was strongly contested (not least due to the ordering of his casket weeks before he was said to be dying).

Sathya Sai Baba made it up as he went along
  The Russian Sathya Sai Forum reported in 2005 on how VIP devotees Rita and Robert Bruce spread an absurd story given them by Sai Baba in interview about major changes immediately after Sai Baba’s 80th birthday, which – of course – never took place. Same old story!

Miracle: Sai Baba spews out 3 tons of gold – he says! In front of th BBC cameras, Sai Baba collapsed after failing to do his lingam-vomiting trick, returning later to tell the crowds that it was because the small golden egg-lingam weighed three tons!

Fake “diamonds” & cheap baubles from Sathya Sai Baba Sathya Sai Baba claims to ‘materialize’ genuine diamonds, which he gives to some (mostly rich) followers. Indian ministers and various VIPs are seen wearing Sai Baba “diamond rings” in public! and important people flaunt these Sai Baba rings in public. But not one such ‘diamond’ has ever been attested to be genuine, but only found to be a cheap synthetic gemstone.

Magnetic farce – Sai Baba stuck to the ground? To cover-up his ill-health and need for hip replacement, Sai Baba claimed the cause of his walking problems was ‘divine magnetism’. Mother Earth was so attracted to him that his feet stuck to the ground. Even his whole body became ‘magnetic’ and everything stuck to it. Hilarious stuff.

Sai Baba caught in cheating about the Christian Bible At Christmas 2002, Sai Baba pretended to materialize a tiny Bible which he claimed to be unique, a text from 1530 AD designed to show the common features of all religions. But this was a Bible printed recently which is on sale on the Internet, and it a standard set of texts taken from the Bible, nothing more.

Sathya Sai Baba and the Turin shroud photos It has been claimed by many Sai followers that he took a black-and-white photo of the Turin shroud image, passed his hand over it and it became a colour image. No independent witnesses to this event or verifiable documentation is found. Belief in it is automatic to Organization members, who must believe that Sai Baba always sticks rigidly to truth and truthfulness!

Sai Baba (Baa-Baa Black Sheep) a misunderstood ‘Second Coming’ Sai Baba declared he is the one Jesus said would ‘come again’- that Jesus actually said ‘Baa-baa’, and that the Lamb of God and suchlike was a misunderstanding! Sai Baba has been widely acclaimed as the Cosmic Christ.

Sathya Sai Baba compared to the historical Jesus Though Sai Baba quotes Jesus and preaches some (but not all) of the same things, the recorded life and acts of Sai Baba bear NO comparison to those reported of Jesus of Nazareth. He needs armed guards, he lives in luxury, he hob-nobs with the rich and famous and mostly avoids the poor, especially the VERY poor. He eats in secret, not in public.

Sathya Sai Baba’s claims about Jesus Christ Sai Baba is held to be Jesus by many followers, and he has told that he is the Cosmic Christ to two UK devotees who published a book on it which he blessed. His claims to Divinity exceed those of any other known person, living or dead, but he has at the same time to plagiarise stating sayings by Gandhi, Vivekananda, Shivananda, Ramana Maharshi, and Ramakrishna as being his own!

Is India a Moral Engine and Social Ideal to Emulate? Sathya Sai Baba traces the problems of India and the world as essentially depending on ‘holy’ sacrificial rituals [‘yagnas’ and ‘yagas’] and holds that his reintroduction and promotion of these sacred acts make India the engine which will pull all the countries of the entire globe into a golden moral age. Seeing India’s problems and general moral condition today, this is unbelievable, nothing less.

The earth’s cool liquid soft-centre – Sai Baba’s “wisdom” At the ‘Deemed’ University – Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning’ oddly categorised as a “Deemed University” ( a real one?) ridiculous false information by Sai Baba about the earth is taught. He assures that the same [Divine Nonsense] is inculcated in every subject there!

Sai Baba Big Bluff – said that beings live in the sun! Sai Baba proclaimed: “In all the universe there is no other planet that has human life, or a similar life form”. Then proclaimed later “Elsewhere in the Universe, life feels it is Divinity”. Sai Baba often contradicts himself flatly on many major issues – followers choose which version they want to believe!

Global Warming or Global Wobbling  Geophysics will have to go through another paradigm shift, because Sathya Sai Baba, who has come to right the world and save humanity, reveals that piling of material on one side of the earth causes imbalance and hence earthquakes. After all, he is (self-proclaimed) God Incarnate and is omniscient, omnipotent and even more omnipresent than ever was Santa Claus.

The ‘wisdom’ of Sathya Sai Baba He held that students and others who “think too much” end up dying (“ultimately”) of indigestion. This is cutting-edge science from an omniscient being? However, he magnanimously attributes this medical breakthrough to none other than Aristotle, whose death he seems to think proves his point… indigestion. [Aristotle apprently thought too much (about indigestion) and so actually died of thinking.] Admittedly, Aristotle was a great and original thinker… but Sai Baba then?

Sai on World Catastrophe? Sai Baba has been reported numerous times as making predictions of a world catastrophe, especially in the privacy of interviews and the classroom from which he must know it would leak out. A ploy to bind people in fear to Sai Baba and his ashram, which was rumoured would be unaffected. Early on Sai Baba prophesied that he would have to lift a mountain range! He also made predictions of a pole shift and nuclear pollution in New Zealand – neither held water!

Apologist for Sai Baba The only top Sai official who has ever publicly mentioned the many allegations against Sai Baba – and then only after a period of six years had gone by – is Dr. G. Venkataraman. He has written a document full of cover-up and false statements aiming to refute the countless allegations against Sai Baba, which has been refuted in its entirety point by point with full documentation. 

Dr. G. Venkataraman – the most gullible physicist? Claiming the Creator of the Universe “is in human form in Parthi”. Dr. G. Venkataraman breaks the rules of scholarly propriety by not quoting any sources from which he draws and even by plagiarizing text.

Religious Fraud and Whitewash in India 
Taking donations from gullible and innocent people and ‘blood money’ from liquor barons etc., while using some of the funds to do social service was deplored by one of India’s leading website editors, A.R. Kanangi.

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Sex-guru Swami Nityananda claims impotence, but court demands test

Posted by robertpriddy on September 13, 2014

See latest overview over Swami Nityananda

The controversial young guru (with a proven sexual appetite) who has been exposed widely in the Indian media and against whom the slow-grinding Indian legal system has in Bengalaru issued a non-bailable warrant  was issued (for failing to attend court). A sexual abuse complaint had been registered in 2012 by a lady who stated she had been repeatedly raped during a five-year stay at his ashram.

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Nityananda, who was also caught on video having sex with a known Indian actress and who reportedly also initiated followers into secret tantric sexual perversions, claimed in the High Court that he was not able to commit the offence of which he was accused. A notice was issued for him to stand a potency test, but he failed to appear for it. Now he is moving his entire ashram from Karnataka to another State (Tamil Nadu), the purpose apparently being connected to his predicament.

Nityananda already had one potency test in September (see this described in ‘Twist in Nityananda’s potency‘). Further, Nityananda is under diverse legal pressures, including in the U.S.A., as the following report makes crystal clear (Click on thumbnail to read the details)

Meanwhile, a different lady in Tiruvannamalai who has spiritual ambitions and strange beliefs has a blogspot in which received some comments that indicate the attitude of many towards him now:-



 Swami Nityananda, known sex abuser under more legal scrutiny   July 18, 2014

 Nityananda severely beating, brainwashing children secretly? October 30, 2013

 Swami Nityananda chargesheet: rape and unnatural sex  December 2, 2010

 Nityananda video, lies and ‘sex allegations’  March 10, 2010
See also dossier on Nityananda here

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First man-made living organism challenges religious beliefs

Posted by robertpriddy on September 12, 2014

Unprecedented scientific breakthrough that changes life as we know it, for the first time in history!

The sciences are pushing out the boundaries of knowledge in every direction and the implications are profound. For the very first time, biologists have created self-sustaining and reproducing life, in the laboratory. The famous geneticist Dr. Craig Venter, who revolutionised genetics when he led the human genome project, has with his team designed and created a new life form, a unique bacterium. He wrote the DNA code digitally, converted it into chemical DNA and successfully put it into a cell to power it. (exclusive film of Discovery Science ‘Creating Synthetic Life’). Or See this video

This is of huge importance and surely transforms how mankind will think in future. It seriously challenges the entire past traditions of all the religions and philosophies that claim God alone could have created life. Natural processes can themselves be manipulated to an extent that was unimaginable a century ago. This advance once again shows how all the mysteries of a supposed creator are gradually being explained and shown to be reproducible. Though this new life form was created out of an existing cell, which it totally transformed, and the original design of DNA was constructed from elements of other DNA strings, this was creation of a new life form, of a living organism. This does not means that everything required for life was created, but a self-supporting entirely unprecedented bacterium was created.

Religious ‘wisdom’ lacks real knowledge

A large majority of the world’s population still lives within the confines of pre-scientific thought, predominantly religious ideas and their derivatives. Though the flat-earthers have all but disappeared, creationists are evidently still a world majority, living in basic ignorance of fundamental truths. Those countries in which a scientifically informed public dominates public life will continue as world leaders in education, science and all the forms of technological industry. The world is becoming more and more dependent on the fruits of science and technology, and it is already a necessity of life to billions of us.

Societies which remain steeped in the ignorance of traditional beliefs and hinder secularism are at a huge disadvantage today and will be more so in future. Increasingly in future, whether societies sink or swim will largely depend on the real knowledge resources of its population. An illustration of this: though a priest, gurus, sadhus, can use mobile phones, they can no more design and manufacture one than fly. Had there existed great sages like rishis or omniscient spiritual masters of any denominations, they would have been able to predict the findings of science today, but there is not a single example of this. Their domains were the entirely subjective ‘world’ of inner feelings, thoughts, speculations and inherited beliefs about otherworldly entities and spheres that were detached from the world we actually live in. Yet there are still many who believe in their ‘wisdom’, superior powers of healing and miracle-making. Such people do not and will never again have any impact on our great human enterprise.  As far as one can discover, no ancient  religious texts have predicted anything of note that has actually come to pass. No mention of the rise of bacteriological medicine,  the Hubble telescope, the Hadron collider, the discovery of DNA and the creation of living organisms… among countless thousands of other highly significant life-changing events.

Science far outpaces ‘spiritual beliefs’ rendering them redundant

The sciences have begun to take control of the workings of out minds, our memories, metabolisms, personalities and the nature of our offspring. This is achieved though genetics, robotics, information and nano-technology used to control matter, energy, and life itself at the most basic levels. “We’ve never seen anything like this before and this is raising profound questions about what it it means to be human and what our lives and future and children will be like” (Joel Garreau on Discovery World). The scale on which these transformations are developing is already vast and the applications in technology and many kinds of engineering are already well underway throughout the advanced industrial world.

The preserve of religion is supposedly the ‘inner world’, the subjective experiences of individuals and the beliefs and speculations based on ancient handed-down ‘scriptures’. This old world of religious and belief-rooted thought has slowly been giving way to rational, empirical and pragmatic thought – not mere untestable speculation –  in the last century and has energised advanced countries in the West and elsewhere. Religion consists in memes, cyclic patterns, deterministically imposing and perpetuating themselves, whether or not those involved have any understanding of how the self-repeating practice started. Thus, religions have a repetitive life of their own and hundreds or thousands of years of this have built up an inertia which takes a lot to reduce. They are always backward looking (e.g. to early scriptures) and invariably set false limits to thought and life. This kind of propagation of culture, often persisting from the cradle to the grave, is diametrically opposed to progressive education, which has to be investigative, critical of ‘established truth’ and self-critical, creative and open-minded.

“There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority, [and] science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win, because it works.” Stephen Hawking

So what becomes of  ‘God the Creator’?

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Film ‘Baba Sathya Sai’ shelved

Posted by robertpriddy on September 8, 2014

Baba-Sathya-Sai-Movie-Launc1The announcement was made by the makers of the film Baba Sathya Sai  (Director: Kodi Ramakrishna Actors: Dileep as Sathya Sai Baba“ is shelved:-

“Our readers are aware that Veteran director Kodi Rama Krishna had started a movie on God man Satya Sai Baba after his demise. During that time, some big names cropped for the roles The movie was thought to be made simultaneously in Telugu, Tamil and Malayalam but looks like the movie is now shelved even before going to sets. Kodi had been resting for the last few months after a bypass surgery.

And now it is told that he is going to begin the shooting of a new project titled ‘Rani Ranamma’ starring Lakshmi Rai and Arjun in the lead roles. The movie will also be a graphical extravaganza like his earlier movies Ammoru and Arundathi. The formal muhurath of the movie will take place on April 15th and will be made in Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada.”

The other film on Sai Baba that was supposed to have been released on August 15th this year, Sathya Sai Baba with Anup Jalota as Sathya Sai Baba and directed by Vicky Ranawat Sathya Sai Baba, has not surfaced so far. It was being shot in Puttaparthi (see here)

Perhaps the film makers have realised that the most definitive film about Sathya Sai Baba so far is ‘the BBC ‘s ‘The Secret Swami’

Comment:  Srikanthuppuluri said ‘And the actor who was to play the lead role had the gates opened for a divinely ordained divorce!! (page since removed)  Looks like anyone associated with the Avatar or even anything remotely related to him ends up in one or the other major life changing event occurring in his life.

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The ‘spiritual quest’ as a wild goose chase?

Posted by robertpriddy on September 7, 2014

The entire question of whether the spiritual goal of liberation from the world into another ‘eternal realm’ can be achieved depends ultimately on the assumption that there exists a God and/or some kind of divine realm (however conceived). The Rig Veda, the oldest of the Vedas and in ancient Sanskrit, deals with this fundamental question of a creator God and the creation of the universe. It does not categorically accept the existence of a creator God.

The RigVeda creation hymn (Nasadiya Sukta – 10th chapter) asks: “Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation? The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this cosmos.
This is ultimately non-theism, because no single all-powerful creator God is accepted, but only deities which arise with the cosmos or universe. Further, in the Brihadaranyaka, Brahman (qua God) is characterised as ‘everything and “no-thing”, while the Chandogya Upanishads stress the importance of the subjective self and are therefore considered atheistic by commentators.

The reason is that all doctrines which deny the real existence of the experienced changing self (except as a mere illusory ‘appearance’) fail to account properly for whatever exists independently of the individual self. Later speculative theologies, especially Adi Shankara’s ‘advaita vedanta‘, held the belief that the self as it is experienced by the ordinary individual is false, while the ‘self-realised’ individual sees through this delusive ‘maya’ of the ego or personal self and realises his true identity to be Universal Self (as many would call God). Thus an opposition supposedly exists between the individual ‘ego’ (based on selfishness) and the ‘Self’ (being unselfish divinity).

Because the Universal Self of advaita (non-duality) is one and indivisible, however, it cannot be described in any way nor defined through language, since language always divides reality in that it must distinguish forms (objects, words etc.) from one another. It is therefore held in advaita that this is only to be realised as an ineffable, all-surpassing experience of being, truth and bliss. This claimed ultimate truth – omniscient and omnipresent – is necessarily individually and thus subjectively experienced. Therefore no evidence of any observable or measurable kind can (so far) be produced to justify it. All there can be are many differing testimonies and attempts at description that have been made by those who claim to have (or have had) the experience.

A famous historical example: In 1865, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa met a wandering adavitic monk, Totapuri who instructed him in advaita. Having renounced all ties to the world, Totapuri guided him to experience believed by adherents to be the highest state in spiritual realisation possible: “Brahman alone is real, and the world is illusory; I have no separate existence; I am that Brahman alone.” Later Ramakrishna rejected the path of advaita for his Kali worship, and he spent a very large part of his life in non-communicative trance. He also warned that not one in a thousand who attempt to reach what to him was ‘nirvikalpa samadhi‘ can succeed, while madness lies in wait for the majority of those who fail. To take a chance on these suppositions, assumptions, claims and uncertainties such as to devote oneself to the ‘spiritual search’ for decades is a huge risk, as it can well be an entirely unproductive wild goose chase.

One must subsequently ask whether it is at all reasonable or conceivable that an experience is possible which awarely embraces everything that has ever been, from the smallest quark to the greatest universe (or a possible limitless multiverse?) and whether any person on earth has ever attained to it or anything remotely close to that, whatever the claims made. The most likely answer is that this is not so. The experiences referred to by claimants would necessarily be unique and myriad, not the identical revelation. Remember that, throughout history, countless people have been worshipped as God, set themselves up as dictator Gods and claimed to be God or deities.

natarajToday millions are aware that most unimaginable living visions can and do arise in human consciousness, including extreme self-loss and bodiless experiences, paranormal effects or abilities and extra-sensory visions, some of a vastly intricate and apparently cosmos encompassing scope. These are caused by many agencies from all manner of mind-altering plants and chemicals, and even too large doses of medicines (eg. morphine derivates) even from accidents to extreme blood loss. These can trigger all manner of mystery hidden within the brain, from unknown subconscious yearnings to extreme traumas. The brain (the seat of a living person’s mind) is undoubtedly the medium that produces anything or everything conceivable or experiencable, from fantastic dreams to the highest science and art, surpassing perceptive grasp of the nature of things or descending to many forms of cognitive or emotional delusion as well as madness. Meditation is most probably not an efficient as a means to achieve the experience since it requires very extreme self-discipline, the exact correct regime for the specific person and many years of practice. (See ‘The Blissful Brain’ downloadable for free at The Neuroscience of Meditation Blissful PDF)

Ancient Indian atheism produced many arguments against the existence of a God creator
The Vedas are numerous, grouped into four main categories: Samhitas, Bhahmanas, Aranyakas and Upanishads. Of these I summarise some little promoted facts about them. 

The Mimamsa school of philosophy was concerned with the critical interpretation of the Vedas. Mimamsas denied the existence of God in any form. Their fundamental text was the Purva Mimamsa Sutras, by Jaimini (ca. 200 BC–200 AD). Mimamsa philosophers believed that the Vedas were without an author, (apaurusheyatva) sacred and infallible, and so as not to lose their purity Vedic ritual alone must maintain the dharma (cosmic order) they revealed. It certainly appears, and even to most Hindu pundits and their followings, that this dharma has been largely destroyed in the current age, indicating to them that the cause was the decline of the Vedas in human life. Most other people in the world would not agree to this or that the Vedas had any power whatsoever to prescribe one right way of life or – as an early Iron Age product – to have foreseen into what humanity, civilisations, culture, the sciences and much else would grow.

Later interpreters of the Mimamsa sutras put forward arguments against idea of God. The early Mimamsa not only did not believe in God but held that human action alone was sufficient to uphold dharma through creating the prerequisites for human benefit from its results. Arguments against God’s existence were put forth by Prabhākara (ca. C7th AD). Likewise Samkhya (from around 400 AD) was atheistic and strictly dualistic, though it preaches the existence of higher selves, while materialistic and non-theist Cārvāka, (C6 AD) viewed everything as caused by natural phenomena. It rejected all otherworldly and speculative concepts: soul, karma, life after death, heaven or hell, rebirth, rituals, other world (heaven and hell), and fate rather than free will.

Jainism’s Mahavira and Buddhism’s Gautama Buddha also avoided the God concept, but otherwise shared many features with otherworldly aspects of Hinduism.

Mimamsas argued that supposing the world was created by a being was superfluous, as they saw the Vedas as authorless. Ther simply appeared from nowhere (rather as in modern Big Bang theory). God and the deities (as worshipped in the Vedas) were nothing but empty names. The idea of karma as a universal law obviated the need of God as a moral overseer of the world, nor as an enforcer of karmic results because God’s motives would not be altruistic (in enforcing suffering), while an egoistic God is a sheer self-contradiction. Their other supporting arguments were detailed and far-reaching. In short, the is no proof of the existence of God who cannot be perceived and so forth. Hindu atheists in recent times

Prominent modern Indian atheists:
Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, father of the Hindu nationalist ideology Hindutva, was a self–proclaimed atheist. The Indian Nobel Prize-winner Amartya Sen, in an interview with Pranab Bardhan for the California Magazine published in the July–August 2006 edition by the University of California, Berkeley states:

“In some ways people had got used to the idea that India was spiritual and religion-oriented. That gave a leg up to the religious interpretation of India, despite the fact that Sanskrit had a larger atheistic literature than what exists in any other classical language. Madhava Acharya, the remarkable 14th century philosopher, wrote this rather great book called Sarvadarshansamgraha, which discussed all the religious schools of thought within the Hindu structure. The first chapter is “Atheism” – a very strong presentation of the argument in favor of atheism and materialism.”

According to Markandey Katju, Chairman of the Press Council of India and former judge of the Supreme Court of India, eight out of the nine systems of Hindu Philosophy are atheistic, as they do not have a place for God in them. Only one of the nine systems, Uttar Mimansa, which is also called Vedanta, has a place for God in it.

Brahmananda Swami Sivayogi was an atheist and rationalist who founded the organization Ananda Mahasabha. Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, the president of Hindu Mahasabha, described himself as a Hindu atheist.

Shreela Flather, Baroness Flather of Windsor and Maidenhead (1934– ), the first Hindu woman in British politics described herself as a “Hindu atheist”. Broadly, she is an atheist with affinity to secular aspects of Hindu culture such as dress and diet.

Kamalahaasan – A well-known Tamil Actor and film maker who make films with atheist ideals and has a popular dialog in his film Dasavathaaram, “I don’t say that God doesn’t exist, I just say it would be good if he existed”.
Amartya Sen – The Nobel laureate is a self-proclaimed agnostic and associates it with the idea of Hinduism as a political entity.

See also The human personality and the ego vs. the self

And as a curio, this amusing case:-
Hinduism no religion, Shiva a ‘superpower’, says IT tribunal

Outlandish it may appear but an Income Tax Tribunal in Maharashtra has held that Hinduism is not a religion and Shiva, Hanuman or Goddess Durga are regarded as “superpowers of the universe” and do not represent a particular religion.

 The Income Tax Appellate Tribunal, Nagpur, in a recent order, said the expenses on worshipping Hindu deities and maintenance of temple could not be considered as religious activity. “Technically, Hinduism is neither a religion nor Hindus form a religious community. Therefore, expenses incurred for worshipping Shiva, Hanuman or Durga and for maintenance of temples cannot be regarded to be for religious purposes. They are merely regarded to be the superpower of the universe,” it said. The order by accountant-member P K Bansal and judicial member DT Garasia came on an appeal filed by ‘Shiv Mandir Devsthan Panch Committee Sanstan’ against an order of Income Tax Commissioner of Nagpur, who had denied the trust an exemption on the ground that more than 5 per cent of its expenses had been on religious activities, thus rendering it ineligible for such concession. (

Comment by ‘tripur’: ‘Then why does the Constitution of India say Hinduism is the majority religion and that the government can therefore administer all temple funds and “look after” temples and even educational institutions run by the majority religion.’

Comment by Satheesan Kochicheril : ‘How can these deities be super powers. The World was neither created by them, nor do they have any role in its working. They remain in the realm of imagination. They have no reality.’

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The Golden Age (Sathya Yuga) promised for C20 by Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on September 2, 2014

If anyone seriously believes that the predicted ‘Golden Age’ that Sai Baba said he was to have arrived well within his own lifetime, then I can only pity their judgement, even doubt their cognitive sanity. The Golden Age was to be realised in his lifetime and be one of one of universal peace, truth and morality with India leading the world etc.!

Four authenticated statements of Sathya Sai Baba

Four authenticated statements of Sathya Sai Baba

Comment from ‘Divyya’:  “There is no Golden Age as the facade promised…there is also no Guru Purnima 2014 Resurrection as the devotees yearned for and propagated. No surprise that us doubters are right again and the believers have to make more excuses and interpretations to explain the mystery.”

Comment submitted on 2014/09/04 at 6:32 am: The speeches of Sathya Saibaba are found to be very dull, monotonous being at the kindergarten level of intellect, mere repetitious, pious platitudes, copied from somebody else. His teachings will not pass for muster even in a man of very mediocre intellect. I don’t know how intellectuals like the former Election Commissioner of Chennai, Mr Seshan, have allowed themselves to be fooled by the tomfoolery of this man. His regurgitating the sacred lingam of Siva hidden in the intestines is most horrible, sickening and morbid, to say the least. How despite nasty revelations about his dirty goings on, he is still believed to be a Godman, mostly by the ignorant Indian women. So is the case of Amirtanandamayi given to extreme self- glorification. If Amirtanandamayi were omniscient as claimed by some of her henchmen, how she could not have known the deception of this man, but declared him to be a special denizen descended from the heavens. Sathya Saibaba, Amirtanannamayi and Nityananda are a disgrace to the society, one having to shun such charlatans. There is a falsehood having been perpetrated by the followers of Amirtananamayi that because of her omniscience she knows the English language, and has delivered a lecture in English which is a blatant lie. All that has happened was that in the Malayalam script some two sentences of English had been written, which she had repeated in a dull Malayalam accent. Her hugging people is mechanical, capable of being done even by a robot. She routinely hugs people, simultaneously instructing her slaves and hirelings to do some activity. All the money given to her donation has gone to promote the wealth of her father. She dares to talk about the wisdom of Aurobindo and J.Krishnamurti,while happening to be an utter illiterate. The sensitive people should indulge in a crusade against these fraudsters exposing their chicanery. Regards Sankarraman

The Golden Age – Sai Baba’s promise of universal peace to Connie Shaw fully discredited 

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