Sai Baba’s broken reputation unrepairable
Posted by robertpriddy on October 8, 2015
Mr. Narasimha Murthy, who is the chief stimulus behind the ‘subtle Sai Baba’ scam at Muddenahalli, has concocted a story to try to counteract the crisis in the various arms of the Sai movement as a whole. It is easily refuted and shown to be wishful thinking, self-indoctrination and a good portion of untruth (see below the message). It should be no surprise that this will not deter many of the crazy believers out there! The residue of foreigners who still believe in Sathya Sai Baba’s absurd and disproven claims is a disappearing small fraction of the numbers of former days, but Indians and much less able to evaluate spiritual and religious claims with an independent mind, so they make up the great majority of the current following.
———- Forwarded message ———- <email@example.com> Date: 5 October 2015 at 19:20 Subject: [saibabanews] Sai Ram – Talk by Shri.Narasimha Murthy on October 4th in Muddenahalli. See source at Yahoo
On October 4th in Muddenahalli, Mr.Narasimha Murthy gave a talk in which he said the following among many things :
In the relentless pursuit of His Divine Mission Bhagavan has manifested and visited 14 countries, across 5 continents, during this year 2015. This started with Australia in January. Why does He do this now and why did He not do this when He was in the physical body?. Swami Himself has explained that He could not have done this when He was in the physical body because everyday 1000’s of people rich and poor gathered in Prashanthi Nilayam, or Brindavan, for His darshan. He could not have missed being in either Prashanthi Nilayam or Brindavan for a single day. Also, this would have created a great inconvenience for a very large amount of people. Now, He is visiting in His subtle form. For Him it does not require a single moment to move from one place to another place. He is doing this because He is keeping His promise given to 1000’s of devotees in many countries. Many devotees had come to Bhagavan and prayed to Him, “Swami please visit our country.” and Swami’s reply was, “Yes, surely I will come.” This is one reason.
Secondly, the second mission, as we who accompany Him wherever He goes, we see that He is preparing the world for the Advent of Prema Sai. He is establishing centres and ashrams which will be visited by Prema Sai when He makes His advent very soon, which Swami has been saying. Already Swami has initiated centres and ashrams in 10 countries. Already one or two are ready “.I wish to state that i do not want to start posting messages against anyone in the Sai family, everyone’s aim should and must be to take Swami’s Message forward in the way Swami wants us to. Sai Ram
In his damage-limition attempt, Mr. Murthy forgets how the fall-off in visitors began in 2000 and increased until his death as the divine mission turned into a divine downfall, with foreign visitors having dwindled to a relative handful. From 2000 onwards there was increasingly room at the ashrams and to spare, even during most festivals. The claim that Sai Baba has waited until now to ‘manifest’ and ‘visit 14 countries’ is inconsistent with the facts and is entirely unsupported by any evidence other than the usual hearsay by anonymous persons. Of course, there have always been thousands of devotees who make such excessive claims, but no independent investigations have provided anything remotely like proof of any of them, but on the contrary. What became of Sai Baba’s promises to ‘take a world tour shortly’, lift an entire mountain range, to fly unaided through the sky, to live until he was in his 90s (giving four different years for his death) and a host of other unfulfilled predictions and promises?
A correspondent wrote of this to me: “The devotees are hopeful that the stray sheep will come ba-ba-ing back into the fold, regardless of how far they wander, is amazing in its twisting of reality to fit belief. “…not have been missed…for single day.” Days went by during the last year of sb’s life without him coming out of his dwelling. Even in 2005 it was becoming routine he he would skip morning or evening darshan or even an entire day. Plus, there were the trips to Kodai, Ooty and Delhi, etc, which kept him away! The bigger reason of the no foreign travelling rule was the fear of being arrested and charged with crimes against children which he regularly committed! As for “…does not require a single moment to move from one place to another…”, conveniently enough, subtle sb has to travel with his clever companions on planes etc, so a place must always be kept for him (paid for by the need-to-believe desperate devotees). I haven’t combed through writings to prove it, but we can assume he gets a place on the airplane also. So much for subtly present in another country in the blinking of an eye!
What power-meetings must be going on with oracle boy and others staging this show, to assure it will continue for a long time to come? Already they have announced that Muddenahalli will be the center of many prema sai darshans!”
The personal motivations of aspiring zealots to make claims of ‘manifestations’ are many and mostly very untrustworthy, and the circumstances in which they come to believe in their own accounts are also many and varied. Intense desires to feel themselves worthy of being so blessed by a ‘Divine Creator ‘ (self-appointed though he was) lead to extended worship, mental concentration of Sai Baba’s person and form, and the wishful re-interpretation of perceptions (and the mind’s ability to mis-preceive and create every kind of vision and dream). Through decades, zealous true believers built up a gigantic structure of baseless fancy and contradictory fantasies – aided and abetted by the misinformed disinformation plugged by Sai VIPs and official parrots… it is largely on this that Narasimha Murthy and his ilk base their vain and nefarious claims.
After the above talk by Murthy, Oracle boy gave another talk, preying on the devotees fond aspirations which were not fulfilled during the lifetime of sb. Here are a few short exerpts:
What I am doing now is setting the foundation for this moment of Prema Sai. Now, laying the foundation is required. All this will become a huge mansion in the future. In 17 countries ashrams will come up. I will enthuse and inspire the people to take to the spiritual path. Already people from 10 countries have started ashrams. In a very short time I will visit 7 other countries to start ashrams there. The coming times are great and glorious. Many of you are thinking that you are sitting in a small hall listening to Swami, thinking that it will continue this way. Not at all. There are going to be great changes. The whole world will come to this place. Over 10,000 people can sit there. The hall will be inaugurated on the 18th November. There will be a Western canteen and North Indian canteen. From all nations people will come for me. Even this hall will not be enough. When Prema Sai makes his advent a lot of programmes will happen in this hall. This big hall is required.
The oracle boy, Madhu Sudan (‘Sukhsma Baba’) identifies himself fully with Sathya Sai Baba, claiming he is not a medium but the authentic expression of Sathya Sai Baba himself. So much so that he usurps the ghostly identity to all worldly intents and purposes and any analysis of the words and accompanying actions of these charlatans are but worldly ones). A correspondent writes to me: “The devotees are hopeful that the stray sheep will come ba-ba-ing back into the fold, regardless of how far they wander. is amazing in its twisting of reality to fit belief. “…not have been missed…for single day.” Days went by during the last year of sb’s life without him coming out of his dwelling. Even in 2005 it was becoming routine he would skip morning or evening darshan or even an entire day, . Plus, there were the trips to Kodai, Ooty and Delhi, etc, which kept him away!
Note that Narasimha Murthy was the warden at Brindavan college and he knew full well of Sai Baba’s sex abuses on males, having procured underage boys for that purpose. Mt. Hari Sampath, a former Sathya Sai Baba security official who later engaged in a major exposure of Sai Baba’s crimes, wrote in a petition to the Indian Criminal Bureau of Investigation:- “I have heard numerous instances of boys as young as 7 years old and usually 11-16 years old being slowly brainwashed into having sex with this godman Sai Baba until they almost believe it is good for them. This has been apparently happening as far back in 1960’s and I know of people who had been similarly abused in 1968 and thereabouts. The most unhappy part of the whole thing is that these people do not have a source to turn to and seek assistance. The hostel officials of the Sai Baba institutions like B N Narasimha Murthy and other staff/lecturers have known it all along, and many of them even “feed” young boys to Sai Baba.”
Souljourns: Narasimha Murthy’s secret of Prema Sai The remaining U.S. devotees of Sathya Sai Baba are propagating as best the can their ‘stories’ about their God Incarnate guru on videos under the heading ‘Souljourns’. These are a group of old timer ‘true believers’, including a bevy of gushing old women. They apparently interview anyone who has good stories to tell
Narasimha Murthy’s imprudent interview & consequences Narasimha Murthy has made claims (such as on YouTube) about Sai Baba appearing in his dreams and giving him precise instructions to build new buildings, etc. and tells fantastic stories about these. Sathya Sai Baba inducted him early in life (before age 20) and told him not to marry. He was made to work without any financial compensation.