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Sathya Sai Baba seen on the moon?

Posted by robertpriddy on July 9, 2010

Some deluded devotees who do not understand the first thing about the difference between and causes of objective and subjective experiences keep on sending out unsolicited e-mails about this non-event, which has discredited Sathya Sai Baba among all people with a modicum of real intelligence and properly established knowledge, as follows:-

the unsolicited e-mail – and the image accompanying it. Anyone can see that the image was superimposed using  a graphic programme,

The above message appears when one tries to access the source.This kind of absurdity was supported by several major Sathya Sai Baba sites like and, which posted the following:-

October 26th 7:00 pm – Swami’s divine darshan in Moon

Many devotees from all over the world have written to us about Swami’s Divine darshan in Moon. We have received emails from devotees in many parts of India, United States and United Kingdom etc. We ourselves saw the Divine darshan of Swami in the moon for the last few nights. We were waiting for some pictures from devotees because our camera’s are not that powerful.

That the image was a construction and the report a fake report made by zealous promoters of Sai baba is supported by the fact that the original of this post was removed both from the Puttaparthi news site and the blog of which a capture is shown above (made before removal). Nor is the material available on the web wayback archive machine. In short, a big embarrassment to the Sai people which had to be eradicated as soon as possible. The basis for all this frenzied fantasy is the fact that the moon’s darker part bears some resemblance of Sai Baba’s afro frizz, but nothing more.

Interestingly, Sathya Sai Baba’s pet physicist and promoter – Dr. G. Venkataram – and would-be astronomical writer (a plagiarist) has remained completely silent on the most embarrassing issue! But then he has stated outright that he believes that Sathya Sai Baba is the Creator of the Universe, nothing less! What kind of a ‘scientist’ can be so deluded?

Several other devotees have made bogus images of SaI Baba appearing on the moon. Among these is that of Darpan Rane, who superimposed Sai Baba’s face on an image of the moon, which was posted by the blind believers who run Later Darpan Rane admitted that he had created the image… meaning it to represent what he (thought) he saw in fact earlier.



See also:-Deceiving ‘devotee’ makes bogus image of Sai in the Moon
Sai Baba To Be Seen In Moon? But Where Was Moon?

Sai Baba Fails To Grant Great Moon Vision. Endangers Crowds
Sai Baba Fails To Appear In Moon, IANS Reports

‘Moon Mission of Sathya Sai Baba’. Re Merinews Article
May You Look At The Moon And See Santa In It
Sathya Sai Baba’s Failed Moon Miracle Under Heavy Cloud

Is Sai Baba’s Moon Madness waning still further

Why build moon rockets when Sai Baba has mantras?

More Sathya Sai Baba Moon Madness

Sai Baba’s mystic Moon Region ‘Chandraloka’ and related ideas
Sai Baba on the Moon videos
Long-awaited photo of Sai Baba in the moon
Sai Baba on the Moon – photo for his birthday?

Hundreds see Sai Baba on the moon

Sai Baba appearances on the moon

More Sathya Sai Baba Moon Madness

Sathya Sai Baba seen on the moon?
Oops! Apparently Sai Baba DID appear on the moon?
Sai Baba postpones moon buggy ride

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Sathya Sai Baba and the Vedas – part one

Posted by robertpriddy on May 20, 2009

Sathya Sai Baba makes the phenomenal claim that he is in reality the Almighty form of the Vedas (i.e. “Vedarupa“) [Sanathana Sarathi July 1974, p. 170]

Sathya Sai Baba is worshipped as the creator of the Vedas

Sathya Sai Baba is worshipped as the creator of the Vedas

He writes and speaks much about them, that they are the result of sages’ (i.e. rshis) “high spiritual vision” including “body, mind and spirit” and claims that  they reveal “astronomical wonders and science, atom theories, how to acquire supernatural powers”. Their essence is contained, he states, in the Bhagavad Gita and deals with the eterrnal nature of the soul. Further they are supposedly a compenium of medical rituals and details and that chanting them and their mantras with correct pronunciation is essential.

The so-called ‘wisdom’ about the atom, nature and the cosmos is entirely speculative and non-experimental and is wrapped in a kind of  lifestyle philosophy for “discovery of the true self” with the aim of total freedom from all suffering. As to knowledge of the causes of virtually everything in nature and human life – Vedic knowledge was less advanced than that of the early Greeks. It is of course far inferior to the wealth of tried and thoroughly tested knowledge available today. The Vedas are  a body of hymns, mantras and unempirical speculations, mostly based on the sheer belief in Deities so fantastic and unlikely, so ineffectual and so totally invisible and intangible, as to be nothing but fictional fantasy, not even worthy of the title of ‘Science Fiction’. This is indisputable to all qualified, working evolutionary and earth scientists…  upon whom the survival of mankind as we know it is most likely more dependent than those of any other branch of applied human intelligence today.

The Vedas and all the myth-based “wisdom without knowledge” that followed upon them – the Ramayana, the Gita, the Bhagavatha and much more, are utterly failed attempts to understand the earth, the physical universe, or the evolutionary origin of mankind or the psychological, social or medical causes of the ills of humanity.  This is shown by the comparatively immeasurably vast progress in all branches of human knowledge through scientific methods and information and research technologies from which “sages” of the Vedas were totally remote. Just as brief examples, the causes of different weather conditions were believed to be deities, while bacteria, viruses and a host of other causes of medical conditions were completely unguessed at by the “sages”. Nothing in Indian scripture suggests that they had anything approaching a true concept of energy per se – that is, of anything other than diverse forces in nature. The concept of a unifying energy  was first conceived and established by the exact scientific experiments Michael Faraday. No one in known history had any idea of electromagnetism before the 17th Century, which was put on a sound basis by the experiments and equations of James Clerk Maxwell, a crucial step towards Einstein’s theory of relativity.

Creationism is the belief that God exists as the creator of the universe. It is a dire travesty on human intelligence and knowledge in the modern age. Only those ignorant of the sheer breadth and quality of evolutionary science can adopt this merely speculative and unfounded belief. This ignorance envelops Sathya Sai Baba’s world view. It is religious moralism in a very ‘fundamental’ and strictly puritan form… fighting the ‘seven deadly sins’, denigrating the use of the senses  and the discursive intellect and all manner of emotional attachment (other than to the Atma) and not least the benefits of ‘materialism’.

The primitive faith in divine creation of the universe and mankind (without evolution) and consequently in universal supernatural causation [known today known as primitive superstition] suffuses Hindu scripture and literature.   The causes of all natural phenomena were – and are by many today – believed to be deities, including all acts of the human condition in the form of supposed ‘karma’, so religious practices were the only solution to all ills – so generations performed worship of countless idols of deities and implored both worldly and ‘spiritual’ assistance through repeating mantras and holy names and ever more futile and convoluted ritual. This is seen demonstrated in the teachings and daily rituals of Sathya Sai Baba and his followers.

See some of Sai Baba’s many pronouncements on the Vedas

Please go to the Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya Sai Baba and His Worldwide Organization

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Stories of miraculous visions, by Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on January 24, 2009

Sathya Sai Baba recycled the following story from the Maha bharatha twice, different and conflicting versions! First time, it was presented as a factual account: here is a short resumé of most of this tale:-



“The cowherd Maaladhaasa who was determined to see the Lord and prayed to the “black Lord riding on a white bird”. Due to his fasting and prayer, the Lord did at last appear to him, but as an old Brahmin, but he was not black and there was no bird. So the cowherd asked the Brahmin to come next day again so he could get the village pandit to say whether he was the Lord himself. The pandit laughed and the whole village turned out next day to see this Brahmin, but only the cowherd Maaladhaasa could see him. He was ridiculed…

Sai Baba then continues with his tedious story here: “At last, he got so enraged they he walked up to the old Brahmin and gave him a whacking blow on the cheek, saying “Why don’t you show yourself to all?” That blow changed the entire scene. Krishna appeared in resplendent robes, smiling face, captivating form and the white bird. As the astounded villagers were recovering from the amazement, the heavenly chariot (Vimaana), floated down from the sky and Krishna asked Maaladhaasa to sit inside it. Then, with the Lord by his side, Maadlahaasa rose up and soon was out of sight.” (Faith that made the lord manifest (cowherd story) (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol 7, pps 7f)

So the reader is supposed to take this to heart as a lesson… The point intended by it is, that Sathya Sai Baba is that same Lord, and is very hard to recognise, so we should all recognise this and be astonished and gob-smacked like those villagers… the implication is that those who do not recognise Sai Baba as God Incarnate are even less smart than those villagers were!

The second version, delivered by Sathya Sai Baba later told it to his students in 1984, this time as a story, It is found in the US servile follower Al Drucker’s book  “Discourses on the Bhagavad Gita” (p. 32 first ed.) in the sixth discourse. Later, Al Drucker did not follow Sai Baba’s demand to remain unmarried and he was banned from the ashrams and the Organization! A poor boy who was a cowherd boy was informed ( by some pundit called Harikathadas) that Lord Vishnu was traditionally represented thus: “dark/complexioned, wore a traditional white mark on his forehead, and rode on a white eagle“. In typical Indian fashion, the boy puts himself through self-punishing prayer and ‘penances’ in order to obtain the vision of Lord Vishnu. In the end, of course, he gets his wish.

This discrepancy between ‘stories’ is not at all uncommon in Sai Baba’s rambling and boring repeated tales of fictitious events in the Ramayana, the Mahabharata and the Srimad Bhagavatam. These writings are poetic fiction based on legend, penned centuries after the e. The famous elderly editor of his journal, the retired journalist V.K. Narasimhan, told me how Sathya Sai Baba changes stories he retells and makes many errors and mixes  up things in his ‘discourses’ – all of which Narasimhan edited out, or even changed to save Baba from ridicule! However, nothing will save Sai Baba’s bogus imaginative claims from the ridicule of any serious, recognised historian.

See also

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Sathya Sai Baba – to turn the clock back

Posted by robertpriddy on January 4, 2009

“Scientists today are inventing several things. A double-decker plane is being flown in the sky. However, along with the great advances made in science and technology, loss of the quality of human life is also on a large scale. This was not the case in earlier times. Several people used to live together under one roof, with peace and happiness. There was no fear complex at all! But, today, the fear complex is all pervading. Wherefrom did this fear come? It is due to lack of self-confidence. People have no faith in their inner Self.” (Sathya Sai Baba in his Convocation discourse, 22-11-2008)

Comment: Sathya Sai Baba bemoans the “loss of quality in human life”. He evidently believes that all was light and love, that traditional society in Indian was better than in the democracies today, but there was constant internecine war and invasions – from the Mahabharata war to the vast genocide by Ashoka, from the Mogul holocaust to the brutal maharajas. It is sheer rubbish to say “there was no fear complex at all”! Sai Baba wants to set the clock back to strict puritan religious and oppressive values,  to rife superstition and fear of the environment, as if all people were more moral and good in former times. History teaches us otherwise (if one knows any). The huge world majority rejects any such return to the past.  Sathya Sai Baba preaches of a golden age in forgotten times, but nothing indicates that such legends have any truth behind them, it is mythological only.  Little does he therefore know or understand of the improved quality of life since earlier times, the benefits of civilised law, increasing human rights, greater security from hunger and illness than ever (even though this has not reached all nations, it is so in the huge majority). One could go on with hundreds of improvements, for even in the last half century, human life conditions have improved vastly on a scale which would have been unimaginable to our forefathers.

“Due to an indiscriminate use of technology, the air, water, food, and everything is polluted and poisoned all over the world. Fortunately, the country of Bharat is spared from this widespread pollution. We should not run after science and technology. Science without humanness is fraught with great danger to the very existence of humanity. There is no greater power than human power.”

On the whole, and increasingly today, the many sciences covering all aspects of existence in greater and greater detail is the very expression of human striving to improve all the conditions and quality of life. They can hardly be said to be inventing only “several things”. The use of technology has been and still may continue to be a two-edged sword, though world awareness as to its wrong uses and proper development has increased vastly in recent decades, which has improved science greatly.

Air, water and food are not “polluted and poisoned all over the world” other than in the country of Bharat”. Pollution occurs in many industrialised countries, but it is being tackled on a massive scale too now. Many countries which had real problems have clean air and living rivers again already. Pollution in India is truly massive, the air in most cities (eg. Bangalore) is grey with exhaust, even the Ganges is no example with all the industrial effluents constantly pouring into it. Food pollution is far from unknown in India, as informed people know.

Most revealing is the declaration, or the admission, by  the self-proclaimed Creator of the Universe that “There is no greater power than human power.” These discourses are a source of amusement to all who can see how bogus are the claims made in them.

As to Sai Baba’s claim that people today lack confidence in themselves (revamped as ‘the inner Self’), this is based on an upside-down version of life and the world which he has been preaching all his life. One can see some of the deep flaws in his doctrine in the following:-

  • STUDY OF IDEAS OF ETERNAL, UNCONDITIONAL, SELFLESS LOVE How the idea of love is ’sublimated’ to an otherworldly realm and become anti-life and a subtle means to manipulate and control people
  • UNITY AS A SPIRITUAL IDEAL and how such ideas function to suppress, manipulate and denigrate the diversity of existence, cultures and unique individuality.
  • GOD IS EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING IS GOD? The great generalization and its logical consequences examined.
  • THE TRAP OF ‘DOUBLETHINK’ IN SPIRITUALITY OR RELIGION How one becomes indoctrinated through a ‘doublethink’ system of dual interpretation – worldly vs. otherworldly.
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    Aurobindo did NOT refer to Sai Baba’s birth

    Posted by robertpriddy on December 28, 2008

    After traipsing many countries to gurus and ashrams, the Danish seeker Rodriguez became a ‘true believer’ in Sathya Sai Baba.

    Click to zoom in

    Click to zoom in

    Despite that she uses clear documentation from Sri Aurobindo to refute a major claim by the Sathya Sai Organization and devotees.  Aurobindo was NOT referring to Sathya Sai Baba and prophesying his ‘descent as avatar’ when the descent of Krishna into the material world (24-10-1926) was announced by him just previously.
    Further to the issue is the official documentation of dates in Sathya Sai Baba’s life indicate strongly that Sathya Narayena Raju – (alias Sathya Sai Baba) was NOT born on 29-11-1926 at all, but three years later.

    Birgitte Rodriguez’s book contains accounts of diverse incidents where she imagined Sathya Sai Baba intervened in her own daily doings with occult help. She is highly credulous about Indian gurus generally, and accepts ideas such as those of Howard  Murphet, that Aurobindo changed the course of the 2nd World War by occult intervention in Hitler’s mind… and similar fantasies about Churchill being steered by Aurobindo. She  wrote: “Sri Aurobindo was also said to be behind British Prime Minister Winston Churchill’s forceful speeches to the world as the Germans invaded European countries.” (p.

    This is the level of credibility to which her product conforms.

    see Birgitte Rodriguez, excerpts from her book on Sathya Sai Baba ‘Glimpses of the Divine’

    See also Brian Steel’s research on this issue

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    Richard Margolin on Sathya Sai Baba and his detractors

    Posted by robertpriddy on December 12, 2008

    A comment was sent in by the usual defender of Sai Baba hiding behind anonymity. (He sent under the identifier ‘notperfectbut’ – see comment no. 3). Only now, after my having mailed back, do I post it, along with my mail and the subsequent responses.

    He concluded his semi-rational comment with the following bitter diatribe against me – I think it demonstrates his quality:-

    “Considering what Sai Baba’s reputation is now, and how it continues to grow (e.g. having two 2 seperate special supplements distributed by the “Times of India” commemorating his 85th Birthday, 1200 official centers on over 140 countries, etc.), it’s interesting that you still feel the need to persist in this futile silliness. But, I guess if you are determined to carve out a very, very, very minor footnote in history for yourself, as one of the most passionate of those who simply didn’t and/or couldn’t get it, and who totally missed the boat: go for it!
    You are destined to be pitied, mocked and scorned throughout the ages, just as those who did the same to Rama, Krishna and Christ… I guess there’s a fool of historic proportions born (at least) every Yuga!”

    So do I get the prominent place in history Margolin would reserve for me – known down through the ages as a pitiful, mocked, scorned fool of “historic proportions” or just a very, very, very minor footnote? I couldn’t care less as long I I help the vulnerable to realize the deceptions, massive break of trust, unreliability and untruthfulness of Sathya Sai Baba and those around him on his gravy train (whether the material or the imagined ‘spiritual’ self-service)

    So, evidently incensed by my e-mail reply to him, the sender accused me of lacking integrity for not posting his unsigned attack… so he gave his name  – Richard Margolin (hoping this would score him Brownie points in the great uncertain hereafter? Or rather because he is as vindictive and derogatory as the run-of-the-mill office-bearer and other devotees?). He has at least now ‘earned’ the posting of his comments… but also – with his spewing bile rather than the overflowing love supposedly due by devotees to all their ‘brothers’ – he neatly demonstrates his failings as a ‘spiritual aspirant’ and Sai Baba follower. He even held a top office in the Organization! That is par for the course.

    Mr. Margolin shows hypocrisy well up on the Richter scale when he replied to my mail (see below) “Since you did not have the courage, class or integrity to post my comment, you are not entitled to an item by item response, beyond the above (not even that. really. But I’ve learn generosity among many other things in my 20 years). ”  Generosity indeed, what a parody!  I do have courage, integrity… but what does he mean by ‘class’… what he himself demonstrates? Is it some American college standard, not class as British (I hope) BTW, he can’t spell properly, writes confusedly as I shall demonstrate, and certainly can’t do independent research work due to his one-sided doctrinal bias and general level of articulation! He wrote:-

    “I’ve read a good deal of Sai Baba’s writings and discourses and am not familiar with him saying that he doesn’t heal himself becasue there are so many who can’t heal themselves. Would you be able to provide a reference for that? I’ve read that when he takes on an illness of someone (as opposed to healing directly which he has done of course countless times) he won’t heal himself because it would be selfish. And the history of taking on others’ illnesses goes way, way back. Here is an except from Howard Murphet’s “Wan of Miracles”, written about half a century ago. The number of these “instances”, have continued to the present day, and the most recent is no different:

    “Satya Sai Baba has likewise drawn to himself and suffered physical pains on behalf of his devotees. N. Kasturi says in his book on Baba’s life that once, a doctor from near Madura wrote to him saying that he had been suffering pain and bleeding in an ear, but that the trouble had vanished suddenly in a miraculous manner. Kasturi said that the letter from the doctor reached him “just when Baba himself was ‘free’, from a slightly bleeding ear and some earache, which he had announced as having been ‘taken over’ from a devotee who was suffering the agony”. Kasturi further states that “Satya Sai Baba has taken upon himself and suffered mumps, typhoid fever, delivery pains and the scalding burns of his devotees”. A striking example of this type of compassionate phenomenon was described to me by a number of witnesses who were present in the ashram at the time of the happening. On the evening of June 28th 1963, Baba asked Mr. Kasturi to announce at the ashram that no more interviews would be granted for the week. Neither Kasturi nor anyone else understood or could guess the reason for this. But they soon found out. On Saturday, 29th of July at 6.30 a.m. Baba suddenly fell unconscious. Initially the devotees close around him thought that he had gone into a trance, as he had often done in the past when travelling in his subtle body to bring badly needed aid to some devotee somewhere. These trances had been known to last a few hours, but this time Swami remained unconscious for much longer.

    His devotees became apprehensive and began to arrange for medical aid. In addition to a doctor at the ashram hospital Dr. Prasannasimba Rao, Assistant Director of Medical Services of Mysore State, was called from Bangalore. He writes, after describing the symptoms fully, “The differential diagnosis of such conditions … pinned me down to that of tuberculous meningitis, with perhaps a tuberculoma, silent for a long time. ” When the doctor tried to give the treatment that seemed indicated, Baba regained some awareness, it seemed, and refused the injections and other medical assistance. He stated later that the trouble would pass in five days’ time.

    During those five days he had four severe heart attacks, his left side was paralysed – stiff, useless, insensitive; the sight of his left eye and his speech were also badly affected.

    On Thursday, July 4th, five days after the attack started, Swami became sufficiently clear and strong to announce that the clot in his brain had been dissolved, and there would be no more heart attacks. However the left side of his body was still paralysed and his speech was thick and feeble. His followers believed that it would take several months for him to recoup his good health.

    During the period of his suffering Baba had indicated to those attending him that one devotee at a distance was about to be affected by a stroke and heart attacks so severe that they would have killed him. So Baba had taken on the illness with all its symptoms of paralysis, heart seizures, high temperature, partial loss of eyesight, severe physical pains, and so on. His disciples understood and accepted this explanation.

    But Guru Poornima, a religious festival day, was approaching, and many visitors were congregating in the ashram. The visitors were very upset and dejected at stories they were hearing of Baba’s condition. Not knowing the cause – or not believing it – they began to doubt “if Baba is God in human form,” they said to one another, “why is he also afflicted with physical ailments? Why does he not cure himself?” On the evening of Guru Poornima Day, July 6th, came the final scene. Practically carried by several disciples, Baba came down the circular stairs from his bedroom to the crowded prayer hall below. The whole left side of his body was still paralysed and his speech was a feeble, scarcely intelligible mumble.

    A doctor present describes the scene thus: “His gait was the characteristic hemiplegic one, the paralytic left leg being dragged in a semicircle, the toes scraping the floor. Seeing Baba in that condition, even the bravest wept aloud.” For a few minutes Swami sat in his chair on the dais before the assembled people, some five thousand inside and outside the hall. Silent, sorrowful, deeply moved they all were. Then Baba gestured for water. Some was brought in a tumbler, and Raja Reddy held it up to the twisted lips. Baba drank a few drops; then dipping his right fingertips into the water, he sprinkled a few drops onto his paralysed left hand and leg. Next he stroked his left hand with the right, and followed this by stroking his stiff left leg with both hands. The hearts of the watchers leapt at the sight, with dawning hope.

    Mr. T.A. Ramanatha Reddy, the government engineer whom I knew at Horsley Hills, was in one of the front rows and very close to Baba. He said, “In a second Swami’s leg, eye, and all his left side became normal. It was a sight for the gods to see his sudden recovery, and the devotees present witnessed the greatness of his divine power . . . ” Mr. N. Kasturi describes it in this way, “He rose and we could hear his divine voice calling us, as was ever his wont . . . He had begun his Guru Poornima discourse! People did not believe their eyes and ears. But when they realised that Baba was standing before them, speaking, they jumped about in joy, they danced, they shouted, they wept; some were so overcome with ecstatic gratitude that they laughed hysterically and ran wild among the crowd rushing in.” Baba was on his feet speaking for over an hour. Then he sang a number of bhajan songs, and finally climbed the stairs unaided. That night he ate his normal meal, and the following days saw him back in his usual vigorous, hearty health, carrying on a full programme of activities. The deadly stroke which had come at his bidding departed within the period he foretold, and left no tell-tale signs behind. “

    In the Discourse Swami gave that night he referred to this episode, “This is not Swami’s illness. This is an illness which swami has taken on in order to save someone else. Swami has no illness nor will he get ill at any time. You must all be happy.; that alone will make Swami happy. If you grieve Swami will not be happy. Your joy is Swami’s food.” “Sai Baba Man of Miracles”, Pg 128-129, by Howard Murphet

    Considering what Sai Baba’s reputation is now, and how it continues to grow (e.g. having two 2 seperate special supplements distributed by the “Times of India” commemorating his 85th Birthday, 1200 official centers on over 140 countries, etc.), it’s interesting that you still feel the need to persist in this futile silliness. But, I guess if you are determined to carve out a very, very, very minor footnote in history for yourself, as one of the most passionate of those who simply didn’t and/or couldn’t get it, and who totally missed the boat: go for it!

    You are destined to be pitied, mocked and scorned throughout the ages, just as those who did the same to Rama, Krishna and Christ… I guess there’s a fool of historic proportions born (at least) every Yuga!:)
    To the above, Robert Priddy replied by e-mail as follows:-

    —–Original Message—– From: Robert Priddy To: aaroncapgroup Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 10:51 am

    Sai Baba has stated that he will not heal himself on several occasions – such as when he had a hairline fracture of the hip in 1988 (I was at the first interview he gave after that). See Sanathana Sarathi September 1988, p 226.

    Whoever you are, you have not studied the matter at all thoroughly, I assure you most sincerely. I certainly have – I indexed every word Sai Baba put out until 2000 and know all the relevant writings until then, at least. So your comment forwarding the usual old over-cooked-up mythology was just sending coals to Newcastle in my case. It is dangerous to wear rose-tinted glasses and only look at the bright side of the coin… I did that indeed. Now I am only concerned to present the other side (to help rebalance the image SB has), having done too much propaganda for Sai Baba for decades. One-sidedness is bias, disbalance and misses the truth.

    For a start, for example see this: I knew V.K. Narasimhan (the editor of Sanathana, in which I wrote many articles) very well indeed . He told me – among many otherwise undisclosed facts about Sai Baba – that he had not in 20 years close observation seen one SINGLE healing by Sai Baba, and he was always with Sai Baba at many interviews, daily talks to students and so on. Further, he had been assured by Sai Baba, who applied vibuti to his eye himself, that his eye would be healed after an operation. He lost the sight in it. I am aware that – using SB as an emotional catylyst – healing does tsake place, as it does with countless other such ‘catalysts’, or objects of intense concentration, longing and prayer. Even bits of wood or imaginary spirits!

    Narasimhan eventually unloaded his conscience to me in private as to how the 1993 murderrs were brought about by Sai Baba’s younger brother blackmail of the police… imagine my shock. It took 4 more years before it all sank in, so deluded was I (like yourself). Narasimhan tried to get SB to explain events, but stated loudly to me – for all to hear around him – he was NOT CONVINCING, NOT CONVINCING. He alone among all servitors could confront SB with critical questions… his importance to SB was so great (in having go so many top figures to visit etc.).

    I devoted 18 years of my life to full-time service work and sadhana for SB – as national leader on Norway. I wrote a popular book about Sai Baba, which he blessed (so what!)… so I am bound to expose what I now know. I did not want to be in the public eye – far nicer to have a quiet, secure life – but I have a duty to all those who seek my advice and help and beg me to continue. The number of people who have suffered due to Sathya Sai Baba and his coterie’s massive deceptions and not least his sexual abuses (I know several persons well who have suffered this! Plus many who write to me in full confidence… it is APPALLING what he has done!) That he has still a huge following in India is due to the utter corruption of that calamitous land where bribery, kick-backs and cover-up is the order of the day. I have over 50 years of experience of Indians and India, and it took about 40 before I realised the utter depths to which that country’s leadership and most of its officials have now sunk.

    I can predict with near certainty that you cannot respond intelligently to these points, for the self-indoctrination is almost always so deep and realization of the facts costs so much personally that it cannot be discarded overnight. My process of reawakening and daring to question took many years! Be careful who you call ‘silly’, it can rebound, as the man said. Why are nearly all you devotees so afraid to stand up and put your name to your final derogatory comment?
    No need to reply, my questions are rhetorical. I am not inclined to hear any more of your parroting of others and tabloid-level derision. Good luck anyhow. RP

    PS If you really take Murphet, Hislop or Krystal and suchlike on trust as reliable, then you are in grave error. Here are some reasons:-
    Sai Inner Views and Insights – Howard Murphet and Howard Murphet and Sai Baba as ‘Man of Miracles’
    Hislop- leader of International Sathya Sai Organization denied hard testimony

    FURTHER COMMENT: The Indian press has been pressured by Sathya Sai Baba and his cronies at the top of government and the judiciary – to publish only positive materials about Sai Baba. The Times of India is hardly a very reputable source, anyhow, as history has shown. As to Brian Steele, he has no more time for you… anyone can see by searching how he characterises him on his web pages. You who believe that Sathya Sai Baba appeared on the moon (supposedly giving his much trumpeted Vishvarupa darsan, as officially claimed), evidently, because you forwarded a report to that effect! You must be cognitively misaligned to a degree… or why did Margolin not NASA or any astronomical observatory or thousands of amateur astronomers notice this.

    The reply to me was as follows:-

    From: Date: 3 April 2011 02:58:46 CEST

    My name is Richard Margolin and I was president of the Manhattan Sai Baba Center for 4 years, and have been a devotee for 20 years. I have too many experiences to enumerate, as do members of my family (who are not technically devotees). I personally know individuals who have had healings, some close personal friends, as well as many, many, many others (we had speakers every month at our center for 4 years). The number of items materialized for people I know is beyond counting (including 5 carat diamond rings and a broach which should be in the Tower of London with the Queen’s jewelry), ad infinituum. I personally have two pictures of Swami in my apartment with quite a bit of ash under the glass (and I am quite clear about why it happened), and I know many others (some of my best friends in fact) who do as well. It may actually be more unusual not to have at least some ash on a picture of Baba in Manhattan…

    Even your buddy Brian Steele (with whom I had an extended correspondence) told me that at the time (about 7 years ago) he had compiled a bibliography of some 600 books about Swami, in English alone. These books, as you know, have almost nothing but miracles and experiences. The ex-Baba cult likes to dismiss all of theses as works by gullible fools, despite the fact that the Sai Organization probably has the highest percentage of educated professionals as members than any other spiritual organization in the world. The late, great, Dr. Morton Klass (, who is the only bona fide scholar I’m aware of who has studied the Sai Organization in any meaningful, intelligent way, called it “an elite revitalization movement”.

    COMMENT BY PRIDDY: I should add that, unlike Margolin himself, it so happens that I was for 20 years a tenured researcher and lecturer at the University of Oslo and I have studied the Sathya Sai Organization very extensively both from within as a participant observer and national office-bearer and as regards its social structure and function from a sociological disciplinary approach. Margolin should read the work of Tulasi Srinivas – a recognised U.S. scholar who has studies the Sathya Sai movement (‘Winged Faith’) who has quite a lot to say about its failings and the scandals, though she is ethnically biased and has many Sai devotee friends – she even quotes my work, though incorrectly and inadequately in the interests of academic aloofness when real issues of life are involved. The academics (not one truly distinguished prize winner or recognized major scientist, historian or anything similar) who STILL – after the evidence, testimony and intensive analysis and research into the deception since 2000 – support Sathya Sai Baba are surely indoctrinated and trapped in all in which they have investigated their former prestige. It takes more than most academics have in them to say – ‘I was entirely mistaken ‘- and retrack! A great deal usually hangs on such matters… so one needs some uncommon courage, though I say it myself! See some information about the academic isolation of Sai Baba and his coterie here.

    Since you did not have the courage, class or integrity to post my comment, you are not entitled to an item by item response, beyond the above (not even that. really. But I’ve learn generosity among many other things in my 20 years). But, your first point alone proves it would be a waste of time anyway since I did not say he didn’t refuse to heal himself. I said he did refuse, but because it would be selfish, not because there were too many people who couldn’t afford to heal themselves, as you said.

    Comment: Further, Sathya Sai Baba has – in several reports – said that he would be selfish to heal himself when he does not heal others who are suffering greatly. I cannot be bothered to dig through 600 books to find those reports, though I have provided one quote – scanned from his approved journal Sanathana Sarathi – where he makes a statement much in accordance with this.This pretty much is typical of the rest of your “points” and I’m not going to wast my time with this type of twisted, bogus, twaddle.

    But I’m happy you have a hobby. As Krishna said of Sispula, with whom He merged after Krishna’s decapitating of him: at least he thought about Me constantly. This does seem like your only hope of salvation.

    Best of luck… Richard M. Margolin
    From: Robert Priddy Date: 3 April 2011 05:55:09 CEST To:

    So now you give your name… that is something. Now you talk of ‘integrity’ and show you hoped I’d publish your original (deluded) and derisory comment. But I do not publish anonymous comments that are derogatory. Besides, no official Sai site ever posts a SINGLE critical comment… and only a couple of low-life character assassinators post critical comments so they can rail against them and stalk the person who does.

    I see you can’t face reality… any more than you could reply to the countless exposures of Sathya Sai Baba’s lies and deceits documented from his own words and the countless reports of such that I and other reputable persons have brought to public notice. All reasonable people – especially independent such – can see that you are cult-indoctrinated to a degree. I have and know all of most of the books you mention… it makes no difference in the last analysis. It is impossible to get around the sexual abuses,. for a start. I know several person well who have been sexually abused by Sai Baba! But I have also been contacted (by numerous ex-students who have confided in me (because they can see I am to be trusted, which is crucial due to the assassinations that have taken place at the ashram.. more than you know about evidently). I first became a real devotee in 1983. You write about salvation? You are clearly a ‘true believer’ in all that speculation. Only those who can’t face life without irrationally hopeful crutches need that.

    Twenty years is far from enough time to get to the bottom of Sathya Sai Baba, not if you have not dared investigate the sexual abuses and the murders. The Manhatten Centre was the lair of the hypocrite Hal Honig, if I’m not mistaken. Perhaps you were one of his acolytes?
    As to ‘Best of luck’… you’re the one who’s going to need it. Robert Priddy

    See about Hal Honig – the close Sai Baba devotee – and his reported sexual antics Will Sai Baba Keep Hal Honig Smiling?
    Notice how Richard Margolin fails to respond to my points about sexual abuse, and his conceited or patronising and invalid ‘reason’ – basically, that I am not worth it! He harbours hopes for me, as his words shows: “As Krishna said of Sispula, with whom He merged after Krishna’s decapitating of him: at least he thought about Me constantly.” All an expression of Margolin’s pseudo-emulation of devotees compassionate love for all, no doubt. Here, he apparently
    positively wants me to have a place in history, not just a footnote! The last thing anyone should want is to ‘merge’ with a reputed paedophile, I’d say. I do not think about Sathya Sai Baba himself much at all, not much of him either… I am concentrated on helping those he has abused and vilified, on his lies and his failures, cover-ups, involvements in murder… not on him as any kind of spiritual figure or what he claims to be.

    Last but not least, Sathya Sai Baba has never been shown to have given away a single GENUINE diamond of any value. There is NOT ONE professional assay to prove that! On the contrary, there are many who have had his large white and green ‘diamonds’ assayed and they are found to be anything but genuine (search the many exposé postings and you’ll see). I had my 6 carat green stone ring (supposed to be a diamond ‘materialized’ by Sai Baba in 1986 for me in an interview) assayed by Queen Margarethe’s jeweler in Copenhagen, and it turned out to be a synthetic sapphire of very low value, its brilliance enhanced by green tinsel paper behind the stone in a closed setting. See

    Mr. Margolin exceeds himself again in a comment he posted to this blogsite see my reply and his comment here

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    Sathya Sai Baba and ‘Suka Nadi’ prophecies

    Posted by robertpriddy on December 9, 2008 and others have publised a list of prophecies allegedly made about Sathya Sai Baba. The following (in black text) is one statement made there:-

    “- The advent of this Avatar Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba was uniquely prophesied not only in some ancient books of Indian origin but also in books of other lands and religions. It is found that Baba’s horoscope has been extolled in the Indian palmyra “Nadi” scrolls of hundreds of years antiquity, containing prophesies by celebrated sages like Agastha, Brahma, Bhrigu, Buddha, Shuka and Shukra. Since there is said to be remarkable accord amongst the different Nadis interpreted by different and independent readers, we can confidently ascribe genuineness and credibility to those Nadi predictions.”



    Comments (in purple text) As has been shown earlier here, we can certainly not confidently ascribe genuineness and credibility to the Nadi predictions. “There is said to be remarkable accord” – this is vague hearsay, for no known authoritative sources are ever stated nor documented. There are no photographs detailing any of the of alleged palm leaf texts referring to Sathya Sai Baba. Nowhere is a source to original text preserved, and there are not even direct translations of the alleged text because firstly they have to be selected from a mass of palm leaves on astrological data – most often got by the doubtful method of measuring the shadow of the person involved and noting the time and location (which was surely never done by Narayana Shastri for Sathya Sai Baba) or by having a correct, accurate birth date (and Sathya Sai Baba’s alleged birth date is contradicted by several official public records of his school days – see here). Secondly, these nadi readers have to interpret the very compact Sanskrit text through intuition. They even allow questions about what the text says and they answer as if virtually everything one wishes to know were to be found there!

    The various ‘nadis’ are basis for one of the biggest ‘occult’ money-earning scams in India, practiced by Hindu astrologers and ‘shastris’ (i.e. who have reached a certain level in the Sanskrit language). Many hundreds of such palm leaf soothsayers are to be found, but can they all have leaves aged anything from 400 to 5000 years old, as is invariably claimed (though many are but copies). The business of faking copies is also rife. E.V. Narayana Shastri asked Sathya Sai Baba to bless publication of his Suka Nadi prophecies, but he was told ‘no!’. Later he went ahead anyhow and is so far – as far as can be discovered – the only nadi interpreter who has discovered the remarkable predictions about Sathya Sai Baba! Since the supposed ages who wrote such nadis are a few (Suka, Brighu, Kumar) how can it be that the predictions about Sai Baba were so unique that no one else can corroborate them or provide objective evidence of any kind? Is it just a matter of ‘believe what you want’ yet again? Further, considering how rewarding any scientific confirmation would be for their fortune-telling business, none have subjected any palm leaves to independent historical researchers or presented them for scientific examination or even carbon-dating. Not so far as can be discovered. In short, plenty of sound reasons to doubt their authenticity.

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    Sathya Sai confirmed ten avatars

    Posted by robertpriddy on July 29, 2008

    Forwarding himself as a Universal Teacher, is it not rather incongruous that Sathya Sai Baba upholds the Hindu teaching on divine avatars (i.e. God appearing and reappearing in human form). But this is totally contrary to Islam, which admits of no representations or embodiments of Allah, nor Christianity, for which only Jesus is a Divine personage, the Son of God – not God as such? Nor does the Buddha reincarnate, and Jews believe in the Messiah, though they also believe God once appeared as a burning bush. This means Sathya Sai Baba is far from promoting universal teachings in his support for the Hindu teaching.

    Traditionally, ten avatars or reincarnations of Vishnu are listed (dasavatara) as the most important of an indefinable number of other avatars. There are, in historical order, 1. Matsya, the fish. 2. Kurma, the turtle or tortoise. 3. Varaha, the boar. 4. Narasimha, the Man-Lion. 5. Vamana, the Dwarf Brahmin Priest. 6. Parashurama, Rama with an axe, who avenged wrongs with it 7. Rama, prince and later king of Ayodhya. 8. Krishna, as described in the Gita and the Bhagavatha.

    Three primitive avatars: A widely-held belief among Hindus is that God has in ages past actually incarnated as a vast fish (Matsya) turtle or tortoise (Kurma), a giant boar (Varuna) and a lion-man (Narasimha), each time to save the world from one or another threat! Sathya Sai Baba has lent credence to this belief, as shown below.

    Here are the first three animal forms of God as avatars in Hindu mythology:-The first 3 of the 10 avatars of Hindu myth

    Sathya Sai Baba teaches about the many figures of Indian mythology as having existed. He sometimes speaks of the symbolism of the ancient and more fabulous myths, but he mostly speaks of the famous ten avatars (dasavatara) as historical fact. He has reportedly caused some of his earlier devotees to have visions of the ten avatars, as reported by his official biographer, the impressionable would-be poet N. Kasturi, and by another of his biographers who was helped out by Kasturi, Ra. Ganapati

    Two such ’stories’ are believed by many Sai followers to this day. Kasturi first, Ganapati afterwards:-

    ”A devotee from Kamalapuram was asking Baba to show him some miracle and one day, Baba called him and the members of his family, his mother and the rest, and offered to show them the ten Dasavatharas, the Ten Incarnations of Vishnu! Matsya (the fish), Kurma (the tortoise) and Varaha (the boar) passed off without any incident but, when the terrible form of Narasimha appeared, they shrieked and yelled with fright, fearing that the house might collapse on their heads. They clamoured “Enough,” “Enough,” and Baba calmed down after Mangalarathi (worship of him with a flame) was performed, by persons, who, though they were there, did not see the Forms, because the Vision was not intended for them!” (Sathyam, Sivam, Sundaram Vol. 1 by Prof. N. Kasturi, page 65)

    ” … the Purohit of a family whose guest Baba was at Mysore was granted, quite unexpectedly, a Vision of Narasimha, and the Srivaishnava Brahmin swooned and did not recover consciousness for several hours.” (Prof. N. Kasturi in Sathyam, Sivam, Sunderam Vol. 1, page 64f.)

    “The Dasavathara Forms were vouchsafed to another gentleman now deceased, a relative of the Karnam family. As a matter of fact, he passed away, because his physical frame was too weak to contain the joy of the Vision. Baba took him to the river and asked him to watch the reflection, His own reflection, in the water. The man announced later that he saw at first Sathya Sai Baba Himself, then, only the halo of hair that surrounds His head, and then all the ten avathars in the order in which they are mentioned in the Puranas; the Kalki avathar on horseback had the form or Baba Himself!” (Baba: Sathya Sai by Ra. Ganapati, p. 81)

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    Ex-king Gyanendra of Nepal & Sathya Sai Baba

    Posted by robertpriddy on June 11, 2008

    Both the recently deposed king Gyanendra of Nepal and Sathya Sai Baba are hailed as Living Incarnations of Lord Vishnu

    Former king of Nepal and Vishnu incarnation - Gyanendra

    Sathya Sai Baba as Vishnu While Gyanendra had to step down as king, he has not stepped down as God Incarnate – or rather he can’t because he has been put on a pedestal long since with all his forebears. His Hindu followers still worship him as such. So which of them is the best contender? Or are they not both bogus gods? The devout King Gyanendra is on record as saying he is a pragmatic person, not a god. Poor man! He is possibly some kind of worshipper of Sathya Sai Baba, as were his murdered relatives and two Nepalese Prime Ministers!

    Sathya Sai Baba’s claim to Godhood

    Supposedly, the sage Markandeya recorded a conversation he had with God Vishnu , the embodiment of theSai Baba enthroned as Vishnu preserver aspect of the trinity, who told him how he would take a human birth in order to intervene and set the world on a new course.

    Sathya Sai Baba has pronounced himself to be that Re-incarnation, come to save the world as Vishnu supposedly promised in recorded Hindu mythology. Sathya Sai Baba declared: “When dharma declines or rather, when those who have a duty to regulate their lives according to dharma lose faith in it, then, its restoration cannot be taken up by all and sundry… The Lord has come again on this Mission.” (According to Lord Vishnu’s promise, it is held) (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 3, p. 106)

    Ex-king Gyanendra’s claim to Godhood

    The BBC reported here:-

    Three months after King Gyanendra seized political power in Nepal, and nearly four years after the royal massacre which dented the aura of the monarchy, many Nepalese still consider their king to have divine powers, as an incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu.

    In conversations with pilgrims here, everyone identified the king with Vishnu, who in the great Hindu triumvirate of gods is the preserver and nurturer. “Vishnu looks after the people,” says a female student. “He will take care of them, giving food, shelter, love – everything.

    Sudhindra Sharma, a Nepalese expert on religion, says there is nothing in the Hindu scriptures that links monarchs to Vishnu’s 10 traditional incarnations. But they do say kings contain portions of deities, and Mr Sharma says Nepalis have linked Vishnu and their kings for nearly 2,000 years. He quotes a Nepali saying: if the king could hear what’s going on, he would do something about it; if the gods could see what’s going on, they would do something about it. “For the population at large, the idea that the king should act is pervasive,” Mr Sharma says.

    Hardline Hindus For the ardent monarchist, honorary aide-de-camp to the king, retired general Bharat Kesher Simha, King Gyanendra can do no wrong. “Unless you have some power given to you by the god, you cannot be a king. He is courageous, he is bold, he is wise.” He says a Hindu king must protect his people and that, given the conflict with Maoists, he himself urged King Gyanendra to take firm political action. Gen Simha is president of the World Hindu Federation, an international body based in Nepal aiming at Hindu pre-eminence worldwide.

    Clashing Claims? Which of them is most righteous, as any good Vishnu should be? Perhaps King Gyanendra’s bloody massacres of protesters against his rule somewhat weakens the claim he is Vishnu the Preserver? Then again, Sathya Sai Baba presided over his ashram where the execution of four devotees took place in his bedroom.

    A further complication – more slaughter and mayhem
    Sathya Sai baba with King and Queen of nepal

    The BBC also reported here:

    Gyanendra of Nepal assumed the throne in dramatic circumstances in 2001 after his brother, King Birendra, was killed in a palace massacre.

    During his six years in power he went from being the country’s undisputed absolute leader to a disgraced monarch accused of orchestrating the killings of his own people.

    Weeks of demonstrations by hundreds of thousands of people secured the end of direct palace rule in April 2006.

    The former king (also worshipped as Vishnu) and his queen, murdered by their son, had visited Sathya Sai Baba. Peculiar – two incarnations of Vishnu for the price of one? Sai Baba’s blessings did not save them… or was it maybe King Birendra who blessed Sathya Sai Baba?

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    Why build moon rockets when Sai Baba has mantras?

    Posted by robertpriddy on October 20, 2007

    Sai Baba and India’s moonshot project

    India has announced that it plans to explore the Moon and will send an unmanned probe there by 2008. The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) calls the Moon flight project Chandrayan Pratham, [} which has been translated as First Journey to the Moon or Moonshot One.” [from]

    Now, the website’s review of Indian Space History says not a word about the ancient history of Indian moon travel. Yet to some it will see peculiar that the coming hoped-for moon visit is heralded as being the first journey. Those will be all believers in the self-proclaimed infallible and omniscient Avatar, Sathya Sai Baba. It is true that Sathya Sai Baba was unable to make his appearance on the face of the moon October 4th last as his close servitor Anil Kumar had beforehand announced he had just said he would. Later, when nothing happened except a crowd problem, it was said to be “postponed”. So will Sai Baba get to bestride the moon before the Indian government project arrives? Well, moon visits by Indians is nothing new at all, as all assiduous students of Sai Baba and his intimate knowledge of all events that have ever taken place must surely realise? The Prime Minister and ex-President Kalam must surely have read their Sathya Sai Baba on several former Indian moon visitors like the legendary Hiranyakasipu and others. Sai Baba’s scientific advisor, Dr. G. Venkataraman, has never commented on these matters, and one must wonder why. Does he NOT believe his Lord and master’s assurances, perhaps?

    Sai Baba has often said that mantras enabled Rama to fly in his sky vehicle and that Ravanna had mastery of all the worldly sciences and possessed all these mantric powers too (but was lustful, hence his demise!) and that Vishvamitra taught the mantras originally to the incarnations of God and himself created a double universe (!!). Having the Supreme Godhead, Sathya Sai, available for interview, why should the Indian Government spend billions of rupees when a word or two in the ear of, say, ex-President Kalam – Sai’s favourite nuclear delivery vehicle designer – would surely soon solve the whole problem of visiting the moon? Unless, that is, Sai Baba has perhaps forgotten the mantras, due to his degenerate condition?

    Let us refresh our minds with what Sathya Sai Baba has often said on this fascinating subject – and has personally allowed to be published occasionally too… see More non-credible ’stories’ presented as fact by Sathya Sai Baba

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    Sai Baba as the Islamic Saviour ‘Mahdi’?

    Posted by robertpriddy on October 11, 2007

    Iran Pres. at UNIran and Baba

    Sathya Sai Baba has been heralded as the Islamic messiah, the Mahdi and much has been written to try to prove he is ‘the one’. Indeed, this extremely inauthenticated text is publicised in a faked translation of Persian prophetic texts in Sai Baba’s self-glorifying Chaitanya Jyoti museum at Prashanthi Nilayam. Yet it would be difficult, if not impossible to find Sai Baba accepted as the Mahdi (much less accepted at all) by prominent religious-political Islamic figures, not least those who accept the notion of the foretold appearance of the Mahdi. One report noted that President Ahmadinejad at the U.N. General Assembly on September 26, 2007 again did as he had done the previous year in the same venue; opened his speech by praying to Allah to “hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi….” “the promised one,” the one who “will fill this world with justice and peace.” Wisely, he did not mention the fuller revelation, that the Madhi would come at the end of time and a great apcocalypse would ensue).

    The Mahdi claims wrote off Ahmadinejad as a primitive kind of Shiite believer. Yet this belief has been – and still is – widely encountered in the history of the Islamic world, probably as widespread as is that of the Second Coming of Christ and the Judgement Day of the Book of Revelations. Such apocalyptic visions are also part and parcel of Hinduism, and Sathya Sai Baba also dabbled in various apocalyptic scenarios of this type. Here are a few excerpts from reports on Ahmadinejad’s “vision” at the U.N., which is strangely reminiscent and alarmingly similar to statements he has made about his personal role in ushering in the return of the Shiite Muslim messiah:- “On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say ‘Bismillah Muhammad,’ he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura,” he says. “I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn’t move an eyelid, I’m not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes – Alhamdulillah!”

    The next, more public venue for Khameini’s mouthpiece was the now-famous Columbia University speech, in which he proclaimed that there was no homosexuality in Iran, courting the helpless laughter of the large and well-educated audience. Ahmadinejad began his talk by praying for Allah to “hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi.” Yet no one, in the ensueing Q & A, bothered to ask him about this! Shi`ism’s self-styled spokesman tried to garner favor with his audience by reminding them that he is an academic himself and still teaches university students. One commentator (see Link below) wrote: “Ahmadi-nezhad broke new theological ground, even within Shia Islam, by claiming that not only would the Mahdi come, but that Allah himself will arrive with Moses and Christ and Muhammad to rule the world.” This was allowed to “pass without investigation, because the moderators were unprepared—or perhaps simply uncomfortable—with it.” From Everybody’s Got Something to Hide, Except for Me and the Mahdi

    “He sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, as to “pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance.” “People are anxious to know when and how will He rise; what they must do to receive this worldwide salvation,” says Ali Lari, a cleric at the Bright Future Institute in Iran’s religious center of Qom: “The timing is not clear, but the conditions are more specific,” he adds. “There is a saying: ‘When the students are ready, the teacher will come.’”  Ahmadinejad and others in Iran are deadly serious about the imminent return of the 12th imam, who will prompt a global battle between good and evil – with striking parallels to biblical accounts of “Armageddon.”” (WorldNetDaily: Iran prepares people for ‘messiah miracles’ )

    Comment: The above saying about the teacher’s coming closely reflects what Sathya Sai Baba has stated about himself, that he is the Universal teacher come to save humanity. He is hailed as the Mehdi Mou’d by Zeba Bashiruddin, a Moslem teacher at his women’s college in Anantapur, near to his Puttaparthi ashram, and who he has made efforts to persuade (Shiite) Muslims to accept him. Like Ali Lari (above). Sai Baba has also said: When the soil is ready, the seed appears from somewhere! The Spiritual guru will be alerted and the thirst will get quenched.” (Sathya Sai Baba in Sathya Sai Vahini, p. 97. SSB Books and Publications Trust)

    For a most thorough account and researched analysis of the carefully cultivated rumour that Sathya Sai Baba fulfils the requirements of the Islamic prophesy of the coming Mahdi [aka Mehdi Moud] saviour, see Sai Baba as the Islamic messiah, the Mahdi: and

    Also see ‘Followers of Islam maligned by the Sathya Sai Baba movement’: As to some kind of Armageddon, Sai Baba has also leaked many rumours about this. One can see the propaganda about Sai Baba’s world leadership being prophesied in an [alleged] Islamic source here.

    Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya Sai Baba and his Worldwide Organization
    View ex-follower signatures

    (Spanish version

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    Posted by robertpriddy on September 24, 2007

    A Selection of Useful Links to Websites and important web page documentations









    Sathya Sai Message: universal or sectarian?
    Sathya Sai’s doctrinaire educational fundamentalism
    Sathya Sai’s confused views on women
    Sai ‘Educare’ in Shadow



    Please go to the Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya (or Satya) Sai Baba and His Worldwide Organization

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    Indian Development, Religious Myth and Superstition

    Posted by robertpriddy on September 20, 2007

    monkeys build bridge to Sri Lanka

    Indian Chief Minister insists that Rama is just a myth

    >But political turmoil over the proposed channel which would go through the imagined ‘Rama’s bridge’ to Sri Lanka  continues unabated. Indian parents have overwhelmingly brough up their children to believe in Rama as God but also as a historical person. The Ramayana story is taken as fact by a vast number of Indians. This is not surprising since India never had a tradition of historical recording until the British became predominant there. As one small example, even now, many Indian books are published without the date of publication anywhere to be seen. Indian mythology is so ingrained in the life (and the countless thousands of temples or shrines) that it could be said to be ‘omnipresent’.  People will claim without blinking that this is the footprint or the tooth of Buddha, this is where Hanuman flew across the sea to Sri Lanka, or this is the mountain Hanuman carried on his back, and so on. The ‘national treasure’ guru of India, Sathya Sai Baba, talks continually about the Ramayana and always presents it as if it were factual.

    One commentator has quoted Deepak Chopra who once wrote in The Times of India, “A brand is an encapsulated mythology. A person will buy a product not because she is consuming the product but because she is consuming its mythology.” The Sethusamudram project is designed to minimize ecological depradation in building a canal east-west seaway to shorten sea routes very considerably by cutting through the shallow area where a natural formation is believed by religionists to have been built by Rama’s monkeys. (see here – Times of India)

    The Indian Express comments: “Even if we take the slightly hypothetical assumption that Lord Ram himself had to decide on whether to go ahead with a channel that would break through his own creation he would surely have done it so as not to deny the opportunities it would present to the people and the nation.
    As for the Ram Sethu fading into oblivion, that will never happen because the protests of the past few days have ensured that nobody forgets the existence of this mythical bridge. Besides, the nation will forever be indebted to those who are considered the custodians of Hindu faith for letting a major milestone in the nation’s development go ahead as per schedule.” We shall eventually see whether religious sentiment again manages to suppress common sense, flout Indian law and derail governmental decisions, as it has done in the case of Premanand’s petition against Sathya Sai Baba under the Gold Control Act and the Indian Supreme Court’s Sai-devotee judges  throwing out the petition against Sathya Sai Baba forwarded by prominent lawyer Jasmini!” A professor of ancient history at Allahabad University, R P Tripathi, has stated “History requires concrete evidence in the form of coins, inscriptions, etc to prove the existence of a character. Even if we take into account places mentioned in the Ramayana like Chitrakoot, Ayodhya, which still exist, the fact is that Ramayana is not a historical text. So, from that perspective, there is no historical evidence available of Ram. Having said that, we still cannot negate Ram’s presence easily, since he has been a part of our collective consciousness for a long time.”

    S. Settar, former chairman of the Indian Council of Historical Research says, “In fact, it is precisely because of this, that we cannot look at Ram objectively, since he has made the transition from being simply a character in an epic to a religious figure,” In mythology, there are many characters who have been similarly mentioned. Does that mean that they all existed?” he asks. Settar also claimed that there is no evidence — either historical or archaeological — to prove that Ram ever existed or that he ruled Ayodhya.”
    NEW DELHI: After Nasa, it’s the turn of Indian experts to declare that there is no evidence linking the mythical Lanka bridge built by Hanuman to the chain of sandbanks captured by the US space agency’s cameras across the Palk Strait.
    Eminent astrophysicist J V Narlikar, when contacted in Pune, said he had seen reports claiming about the mythical bridge, but there was no evidence to suggest that what had been located had links with the bridge mentioned in the Ramayana.
    “There is no archaeological or literary evidence to support this claim,” eminent historian R S Sharma told The Times of India in Patna.
    “The Ramayana itself is not that old. Nor had human habitation occurred 1.75 million years ago,” Sharma, an acknowledged authority on ancient Indian history, said.
    The oldest evidence of the Ramayana is around 400 BC and running across five strata, its shloka multiplying from 6,000 to 24,000, it comes up to 1200 AD. “Even if you want to rely on literary evidence, the oldest literary evidence available is only from 1500 BC.”

    Chennai/New Delhi, Sept. 17: Tamil Nadu chief minister M. Karunanidhi repeated his statement within a few hours of shocking Hindus by declaring again late on Saturday night that Lord Ram was a mythical figure and had not built any bridge across the sea to Sri Lanka, and that the Ramayana was a work of fiction.”Some say there was a person over 17 lakh years ago. His name was Ramar. Do not touch the bridge (Rama Sethu) constructed by him, they are saying. But then, from which engineering college had he graduated? Is there any proof for this,” said Mr Karunanidhi, well known for his atheist views, while addressing a public rally at Erode. The occasion for the rally was DMK founder C.N. Annadurai’s 99th birth anniversary.In New Delhi, Union shipping minister T.R. Baalu on Monday indicated that the government would move the Supreme Court soon for appropriate orders to ensure that work continues in the Ram Sethu area of the Sethusamudram Project. Mr Baalu said that pursuant to the August 31, 2007 and September 14 orders of the Supreme Court, work in only the Ram Sethu portion of the project had been stopped. “The government will soon approach the Supreme Court and obtain appropriate orders to continue working in this region also and is confident of completing the project at the earliest,” Mr Baalu said.Mr Baalu said work on the Sethusamudram Project, “a 140-year-dream project of the Tamils”, was inaugurated by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on July 2, 2005 and the project had been under implementation since then. The DMK leader, citing the Supreme Court judgment in the Narmada Bachao Andolan vs Union of India case in 2000, said the top court had then observed that when such projects are undertaken and hundreds of crores of public money is spent, any individual organisation in the garb of PIL cannot be permitted to challenge policy decisions after long lapses of time. “It is against the national interest and contrary to the established principles of law that decisions to undertake developmental projects are permitted to be challenged after a number of years, during which period public money has been spent in the execution of the project,” he said. BJP spokesman Ravi Shankar Prasad dared Mr Karunanidhi to make similar statements dismissing the heads of other faiths. 


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    Sai Baba’s failing health

    Posted by robertpriddy on September 9, 2007


    Sai Baba do-lally?

    On this photo from around 2006, there was already a decidedly ga-ga look on Sai Baba’s face. Instead of the usual, where he cuts the ribbons, he is ‘assisted’ (he is actually holding onto the hand of his helper!). Likewise, videos also show him unable to cut his birthday cakes any longer.  Rumours that he is non compos mentis have become yet more persistent, having begun with accounts of his apparently senile behaviour already three years ago (including one from a recently-disaffected US resident in India who had been editing some of the Puttaparthi magazine ‘Sai Impressions’). He was heard to be giving instructions about events that were not scheduled and never took place, talking confusedly and sometimes garbling his words. It is Mrs. Geetha Reddu, the Andhra Pradesh Tourism Minister who is doing the honours of inaugurating the tourist complex in the above photo. No longer is Sai Baba against ‘spiritual tourism’ – as was so strongly formerly – and is even for out-and-out tourism and thus now also for his own direct involvement in Indian politics (see Sai Baba Sparks Political Furore) It is his powerful money and power instinct at work, no doubt! See this excerpt from an official Sai baba webpage which shows how Puttaparthi is being made a money earner through massive injection of public funds:-

    Tourism Minister Geetha Reddy with Sai Baba

    In the light of the likelihood that he is losing his marbles and may therefore be declared too unfit to give evidence, he may escape justice and having to face an Indian court for the allegations of child abuse, widespread sexual abuses, corruption and murder cover-up before his death. In any case, he has the full weight of the Indian government behind him, with devotees in Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and India’s President, Patil as the last in a long line of such luminaries who worship him. Among his most excessive aberrations from science and reason, Sai Baba believes in black magic (see here), spreads many fantastic rumours about his supposed miraculous powers (far exceeding anything heard of except from the Superman comics) and much else besides.

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    Posted by robertpriddy on September 6, 2007

    The One God of all religions?

    Even if you believe only half you hear, you are in deep trouble with the following claims by Sai Baba. Will he go down in history as the Saviour of Mankind from global disaster (as he claims) and human evil? If so, he would necessarily displace Jesus Christ and Christianity, Jehova and Judaism, Buddha and Buddhism, Islam and Allah and Whoever and Whatever? One must certainly hope not – if only for the sake of human rationality and progress in empowering people to improve their lot and that of the world rather than become fixated in prayer to God and his traditional “teachings” about fate and the futility of worldly engagements. His many deceptions – so firmly demonstrated here and elsewhere – and his bogus  “universal religion” are accepted by a long line of Indian Presidents and Prime Ministers – and also by those of today and much of the Indian Government! It is an enigma… for can they truly believe in the following words of Sathya Sai Baba? They must… or else they’d have to view him as a megalomaniac.

    “I am all deities in one. You may endeavour your best for thousands of years and have all mankind with you in your search. But you cannot understand My Reality.”US ed. of Kasturi’s Sathyam Sivam Sundaram Vol 3 page 315)

    “There was no one to understand Me until I created the whole world”(Official biographer N. Kasthuri’s direct quote in ‘Pathway to Peace’ p. 64.)

    Sathya Sai Baba said in 1968: “This is a human form in which every Divine entity, every Divine principle, that is to say, all the names and forms ascribed by man to God, are manifest… You are very fortunate that you have the chance to experiences the bliss of the vision of the form, which is the form of all gods, now, in this life itself.”(Sathya Sai Speaks Volume VIII. page 99f)

    “God can do anything. He has all power in the palm of His Hand. My Body, like all other bodies, is a temporary habitation; but, My Power is eternal, all-pervasive, ever-dominant.”Christmas Day Discourse, Bombay 1970. ed. of Kasturi’s Sathyam Sivam Sundaram Vol 3 page 136)

     “On previous occasions when God incarnated on earth, the bliss of recognising Him in the incarnation was vouchsafed only after the physical embodiment had left the world, in spite of plenty of evidences of His Grace. But, ponder a moment on this Sathya Sai Manifestation; in this age of rampant materialism, aggressive disbelief and irreverence, what is it that brings to It the adoration of millions from all over the world? You will be convinced that the basic reason for this is the fact that this is the Supra-worldly Divinity in Human Form.” (Sathya Sai Baba 17/5/1968. Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 8, p 100)

     “If I had come as Narayana with four arms, they would have put me in a circus, charging money for people to see Me. If I had come only as a man, like any other man, who would listen to me? So I had to come in this human form but with more than the human power and wisdom.”(US ed. of Kasturi’s Sathyam Sivam Sundaram -Vol 3 page 309)

    Further, on the task of the revival of dharma, he says “… who has to take it up? It was said that I have taken up this Form in answer to the prayers of sadhus (noble souls) and others… I have come, because I felt I had to come. I resolved upon this… This campaign will succeed, it will not fail. The welfare of the world will be ensured through the fostering of the Godly everywhere, and more particularly of these ancient reservoirs of the ancient wisdom of this land.”(Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 3, page 205)

    “The Lord is the refuge of all who seek refuge, the saviour of all who have to be saved. He is the Embodiment of Being-Awareness-Bliss (Sat-chit-ananda). He is now at Puttaparthi as the Effulgent Emperor over the region of Truth, Goodness and Beauty.” (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. XIII, p 114)

    “When dharma declines or rather, when those who have a duty to regulate their lives according to dharma lose faith in it, then, its restoration cannot be taken up by all and sundry… The Lord has come again on this Mission. He has collected the engineers and contractors and the labour for this purpose. He is not set on the task.”Let me tell you one more thing: Nothing can impede or halt the work of this Avathaara… Formerly when the Govardhanagiri (mountain) was raised aloft by a little boy, the gopis and gopalas realised that Krishna was the Lord. Now, it is not one Govardhanagiri, a whole range will be lifted, you will see!” (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 3, p. 106)

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