Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

Exposing major deceits by guru Sathya Sai Baba in India, incl. murders cover-up & widely alleged sexual abuse

Miriam Shakti Devi profile

Posted by robertpriddy on September 17, 2017

A self-promoting ‘holier than thou’ Sai Baba supporter, Miriam Lakshmi , who evidently has major aims to be a worshipped herself, took the ‘spiritual’ pseudonym Miriam Shakti Devi) and ill-advisedly wrote a comment on an earlier page of mine here as follows:-Since those who write comments sometimes do not check to see if they were posted, I sent an e-mail to this young and evidently very naive lady, (see text lower down)

Her confident ignorance of my position and the lifelong discoveries behind it, she imagines I have only had/have materialistic ideals (which is an untrue slur. Not even a full supporter of ontological materialism). Unfortunately, from all the signs available on her self-promoting Instagram pages, this is another bogus religious healer with all the sweet but empty talk many of the signs of make-believe hodgepodge of false doctrine based on such misleading ideas as astrology, ‘medicinal yoga’ (yoga and medicine are almost entirely at odds about the causes of ill health). In short, this is but another totally unoriginal copyist who draws on the success of countless Hindu frauds and mystics, gurus and swamis, the majority known for sexual abuse, power hunger and unlimited greed for funds.  This is the marketplace of spirituality for the innocent, naive, and credulous people who have life problems they believe can be healed by religious means.

To from Robert Priddy:-

“Ad your well-meaning (?) comment on my wordpress pages: I have sympathy with your position since I was once of very much the same attitude. That lasted for years until, after several years following a Swami Ambikananda in London, and eventually 18 years running the Sai Organisation in Norway and knowing thousands of devotees of Sathya Sai Baba, and those of other gurus.

I did almost nothing but seva for about 18 years and came to know the ashram people in and out . and must of the world organisation leaders. I had over 10 hours of interviews with Sai Baba over 18 years and hundreds of darsan contacts. Eventually I came to learn what I had never wanted to know about it all… and I am a very exacting and honest investigator, now having been contacted as trusted by over a thousand ex-devotees of Sai Baba with their accounts of all kind of fraud, abuse, crime and cover-up. It took me a decade to absorb and draw the unavoidable conclusion from it all.

You have shown that you do not know anything about me or what I stand for and why. I have posted you comment (on my website at with a response for the public to read. I shall add postings that will soon appear under you name on Google.

However, if and when you come on better ideas and realise the emptiness of the quest you are so devoted to in mere belief and repent for the error of your ways, you may contact me again and, if your attitude proves acceptable – I shall remove the postings that will now appear under you name on Google. I have some compassion even for people like yourself.”

Robert Priddy


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Ram Rahim’s imprisonment may herald a crackdown on other Hindu sex and money gurus

Posted by robertpriddy on August 29, 2017

The number of news outlets – also outside India – that are promoting the imprisonment of infamous false guru Ram Rahim is considerable.  The Sun Daily denounces Ram Rahim along with a list of similar false sex gurus: Ashutosh Maharaj, Asaram Bapu, Swami Nithyananda, and Sathya Sai Baba writes: Ram Rahim, Asaram, Radhe Maa : List of controversial Baba`s is long enough!!!  “Millions of people worship them but seems like the two things that unite them together are sex and money.” These also include Sant Rampal Baba, Asaram Bapu, Swami Nithyananda, Rajneesh/ Osho, and Satya Sai Baba.

The conviction to 20 years in prison of the false bling guru Ram Rahim with his deluded and very aggressive following is a promising sign, not least considering the guru-fascination with Hindu gurus of the current right-wing extremist Prime Minister Modi. There are many more who are going unpunished. Nonetheless, so far the case against the horrendous Asaram Baba is dragging on without progress as he fortunately languished in prison awaiting trial for sexual abuse, disappearances and murders.

It was self-proclaimed God and Creator of the Universe, Sathya Sai Baba, who set the stage for the explosion of false miracles gurus (so-called godmen) where money, miracles, sex abuses, murder and powerful influence on politicians even up to Prime Minister and Presidents.  Sai Baba even inspired a considerable number of impersonator copyists (see the Sai-lookalike guru gallery) who even reproduced as closely as possible Sai Baba institutions, ashram buildings, indoctrinating schools, colleges, hospitals and whatever.

See also many more offenders:  The Dark Side of very prominent Hindu gurus

Also a full dossier on Asaram Bapu, and on Swami Nityananda

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‘Prema Sai’ child to compete with Muddenahalli’s ‘oracle boy’ (Madhusudan) and Narasimha Murthy

Posted by robertpriddy on August 22, 2017

The Russians are starting to visit the ‘presumed Prema Sai’ in Mysore. A boringly pedestrian  video was filmed by two Russian women. The credits are claimed by Svyatoslav Dubiansky, promoting herelf as a writer and artist, but the video is as far from art as it is possible to get. The typically squirmy kiddo (‘Prema Sai’?) is getting many gifts from the foreigners, including a children’s motorcycle  (and his parents are no doubt getting some money too). He is shown playing like any child with presents, but no sign whatever of any spirituality can be discerned (as is said to have markes Sathya when that age). A video was filmed in the house of his parent in January 2017, with the mini Prema Sai now talking. It was posted on YouTube. There are clearly interests behind promoting this child who was hijacked as Prema Sai early on. No doubt this is seen as a way out of poverty into riches, if it takes off, as it may be doing, however uninspiring is is. There are buildings being constructed in the village. Another YouTube video introduces the two brothers of the ‘father of Prema Sai’, of course all of them are reaping the benefits of the totally random place and day the boy was born.
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P. M. Bhargava – one of India’s greatest promoters of the spirit of science is no more

Posted by robertpriddy on August 11, 2017

The eminent scientist and public intellectual Pushpa Mittra Bhargava passed away after a brief illness on August 1, 2017. He was a major figure in promoting the spirits of science and built up organisations to support science. He was a defender of freedom of speech, as well as dissent in every aspect of his work. As such he was particularly opposed to all manner of religious fundamentalism and bigotry, and  was therefore also an adamant critic of Sathya Sai Baba who he knew to be a fraud. See

“As the dust after the death of Satya Sai Baba has largely settled, it is time to evaluate him, his work and its implications, objectively and unemotionally, for there is a good deal to be learnt from his life and death.”

Bhargava goes on to reject all Sai Baba’s claim to be a reincarnation pf God as based entirely on his alleged performance of miracles, which Bharghava rejected as never having been performed by anyone. “the Council for Social Development (CSD”

He wrote: “As regards the miraculous cures he claimed to have performed, we never heard of his failures. A distant cousin of mine had her young son suffering from an incurable disease. Sai Baba who blessed him said he would be cured. When she went back to him after the child’s death, Sai Baba told her that he felt it was best for the child to come to him and that is what he caused to happen; so there was no reason for worry.

The cures that may have been effected were never established to be directly on account of Sai Baba’s ‘divine’ intervention. They were probably natural or psychosomatic, of which numerous examples are known. After all, what do neuropsychologists or psychiatrists do? That is why he never allowed rationalists like Professor Narasimhaiah, former Vice-Chancellor of Bangalore University, or Premanand, to come anywhere near him. It is believed that it were his men who actually once beat up Narasimhaiah.”

“As regards his acts of charity, there are innumerable people in the country who engage in such acts to avoid undue attention focussed on their ill-gotten wealth. Accounting of his enormous wealth has never been transparent.

“Sai Baba’s unusual accomplishment was to recruit such a large number of the rich and the powerful, politicians and bureaucrats, law-makers, law-keepers, and law dispensers, amongst his followers. Perhaps this is more of a reflection on his followers than him!”

“Sai Baba’s death was not a national tragedy. The national tragedy was his being given a state funeral, a state of official mourning being declared, and the country’s political leaders — cutting across parties, including the Prime Minister and the Chairman of the NAC — spending precious time and resources to have his last darshan, relegating to the background the nation’s constitutional commitment to a scientific temper.

P.M.  Bhargava  was a life member of the Council for Social Development, He held posts on the National Knowledge Commission, the National Security Advisory Board and was the founder and Director of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology, Hyderabad.

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‘Two are one, not two’?

Posted by robertpriddy on August 7, 2017

Latest addition – excerpts from the guru amusement arcade of disillusionments by Narasimha Murthy:-

In his campaign to accumulate ill-gotten gains, the instigator of the Sukshma Baba ‘oracle’ fraud, Narasimha Murthy, produces more meaningless drivel as is his wont. The absurdity of arcane numerology is called up: ‘Two is not two, but one’. This is a tricky math which flouts all reason and common sense hoping to convert the truth into its opposite and contradiction. N. Murthy has always claimed that the oracle boy Madhusudan is not a medium, now he repeats that he is not a communicator (of Sathya Sai Baba’s discourses) but “a vehicle”. This crafty play on words means nothing, as it tries to muddy the meanings of both words by conflating them. He cannot explain in any intelligible way what the difference really is.

He tries to reinforce his claim that the dead Sathya Sai Baba is present (when Madhusudan goes around imitating the former false ‘avatar’) and that “sometimes Madhusudan is not there at all! This DESPITE Madhusudan all the time walking about, talking and delivering blessings and boons to the deluded ‘followers’! Instead, Sathya enters the personality of Madhusudan and the actual Madhusudan is not there. Is what undeniably remains a walking talking zombie de-personalised body? Or is it morbid possession? No, he claims is really nothing but ‘love’ and is can only be ‘seen’ with the heart (whatever the senses show). This doublethink, double talk, is just another standard trick of gurus when they are caught out in lies and ulterior motives. Beware!

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Sathya Sai’s left-hand man, former High Chief Justice Bhagwati is dead

Posted by robertpriddy on July 28, 2017

Sathya Sai Baba’s former extremist supreme court judge, P.N. Bhagwati, died on June 15, 2017, He was Sai Baba’s close devotee and associate as the top cover-up man in the judicial system. He stated to The Times of India (May 1, 2011): “Sai Baba, my god, dictated my every single judgement” (That highly compromising interview article can be seen here).

Bhagwati’s level of integrity left everything to be desired. His intelligence and probity came under scrutiny when he manipulated the Supreme Court judges to throw out in peremptory and typically unjust fashion the petition presented by Kamini Jaiswal on behalf og Hari Sampath, a former security official at the Sathya Sai Baba ashram, who accused Sai Baba of serial sexual abuses and numerous other crimes. He later admitted to his lacking judgement in rather replying on his sworn God-guru, Sathya Sai Baba, for his every action and decision for decades! See Sai Baba’s Bhagwati showed total disrespect for justice.

With the government of the time (under Narasimha Rao and Home Minister S.B. Chavan), he was a key player in the cover up of the ghastly executions under Sathya Sai Baba’s aegis in his own apartment and not least the affidavit-backed petition to the Supreme Court, which also exposed the long-term sexual abuses of young men by Sathya Sai Baba. Now we see that he has – in his semi-senility – let the cat out of the bag, as if hoping to be forgiven for such dastardly actions of repression of democracy! Not a gentleman by any means… deeply involved in dark doings by the Sai Central Trust involving the covered-up facts about the death of his guru, Sathya Sai Baba who they evidently disconnected from life support on Easter Sunday (having planned it all in advance). Bhagwati also was co-responsible for the directly illegal appropriation (regardless of the family) of the hoards of wealth kept privately by Sai Baba – all in direct contravention to the rules of the Central Trust.

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Sathya Sai Super Specialty Hospital in decay

Posted by robertpriddy on July 23, 2017

The Sathya Sai Baba cult and its many voluntary institutions have been exposed so widely for so many failings that – so, where there were once willing professionals from abroad, there are no longer enough eager qualified devotees to work for peanuts and as a reward. These include the many-sided cover-ups about the illness from which Sathya Sai Baba died (most likely AIDS), the lack of a proper death certificate – and the many other highly suspicious events surrounding his death, when it occurred, why his casket was already ordered 3 weeks before the announcement of his death (made to coincide with Easter Day). Boring for staff having constantly to attend repetitive bhajans and talks while having to sit before the stone ‘samadhi’ (grave) too.

Comment by Eileen ‘Divya’ Weed: “I have been told by a friend who was a temporary volunteer in the hospital that they offer salaries so low that except for a few ardent devotees, the only people who apply for jobs in the Puttaparthi sb hospitals are recent graduates who could not find work elsewhere (and many are not devotees of sb). They work for a time to get experience, all the while applying for other jobs, and they leave once they get hired elsewhere.”

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Prema Sai announcement by Sukshma Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on June 15, 2017

The Muddenahalli ‘oracle boy’ known as Sukshma Baba (aka Dewreddy Madhusudan Rao Naidu) has now ‘revealed’ details about Prema Sai, who he claims is born and will not become known until he is 14 years old. (This amends Sukshma Baba’s report: 5 more years before Sai leaves this form.) He previously announced that he’s only working in the ‘subtle’ body until the original sb body would have reached the age of 96. That means the mission should end in less than 10 years, yes? The latest report, however, presumably gives oracle boy another decade (at least) of business to look forward to, getting donations, enjoying five-star international accommodations, food and touristy travel.) With all the math mashups perpetrated by the crazy logistic devotees, any of this can easily be adjusted to fit one’s faith, fear and need!

Long ago, Sathya Sai Baba told Kasturi that as Prema Sai he would not be known until he was 14.  He would be born 8 years after Sathya’s passing (at age 96!!) and would marry a beautiful girl when he reached age 21. (Prof. Ruhela summarised all from the official literature Prema Sai predicted as third Sai Baba incarnation). In the official Sai literature, Sathya SB is reported as having given two different places for the birth. One account was Doddamalur (see Times of India scan here But in a lecture for foreigners in January 1985 at Prashanthi Nilayam which I attended Sai Baba’s biographer N. Kasturi told us that, while driving with him past a small village called Chandrapatna in Karnataka State (some 38 kms South West of Bangalore), Sai Baba said to him that he would ”take rebirth” there and that Kasturi would be his mother! (Kasturi also published this in one of his many writings). So oracle boy has simply dug out these facts (maybe he did not know them earlier – many people are very ignorant of all that SB wrote and said.

To save you from having to read the long talkative statement of the oracle boy (which however can, if need be, be seen here) I extract this:-
Oracle boy stated he is a “bad teacher” and “makes things more confusing”. That was an unintended understatement and it is always confusing as to who is stating things – whether it is Madhusudan or the subtle Sai Baba. See this exchange:-

 *Devotee:* There is a lot of confusion on this topic, but could you tell us if little Prema Sai has already been born or when he will be born?
*Swami:* If I do not speak there is confusion; if I speak there will be more confusion! ”
Now I talk a lot – I have been talking and will continue to talk, but Prema Sai is not as talkative as I am – silence is the language of Prema Sai. Those who cannot understand silence will not understand Him.

Confusion evidently reigns. All very clarifying? Then again, this underlines that with blind faith, no one needs to understand anything with the human mind. Good luck with that!

See more on the Muddenahalli cult:-

Sathya Sai Central Trust vs. Sathya Sai Loka Seva Trust
 Deep schism between two major core factions in the Sathya Sai movement
Tigrett’s ludicrous fantasies about Sai Baba’s ‘return in subtle body’ (preposterous claims by Tigrett from June 2014 about Sai Baba holding discourses in a ‘subtle body’ in Kodaikanal!)Narasimha Murthy flees from legal punishment
Souljourns: Narasimha Murthy’s secret of Prema Sai
Narasimha Murthy’s imprudent interview & consequences This same person, B.N Narasimhamurthy, was once the Warden of Sri Sathya Sai Student’s Hostel. He was accused by students at the Brindavan Ccollege campus not only to have been a provider of young boys and youngish men for Sai Baba to abuse sexually, but was himself a sexual abuser.

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Suicide or murder at Prashanthi? Police in doubt

Posted by robertpriddy on June 12, 2017

The Indian Express has posted an update on the alleged suicide of a woman in Prashanthi Nilayam. The key point is that “Cops are also probing if her seniors at the trust had anything to do with the case as notes and emails seen on her laptop suggest there was some tension between them.” Considering the number of crimes, from murders and disappearances to massive theft of funds at Prashanthi Nilayam which have been consistently covered up or left uninvestigated in past years, there is as every reason to suspect that the same tactics of spreading confusion, bribing the police or other authorities, and diverse threats against witnesses will be involved if it is a case of foul play. The Indian Express wrote:-


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Death of devotee in Prashanthi Nilayam

Posted by robertpriddy on June 8, 2017

An alleged suicide, but notably the Puttaparthi police are “investigating other possibilities”. Those police have the blackest record over how they handled the infamous murders in Sathya Sai Baba’s apartment in June 1993! Together with the Prashanthi authorities, who are known as masters of deception and cover-up, one can be confident that the truth, if at all unpalatable, will never be known:-

Sathya Sai Baba devotee found dead in Puttaparthi school in Andhra Pradesh
By Express News Service  |   Published: 07th June 2017 04:38 PM  |
Last Updated: 07th June 2017 04:38 PM
ANANTAPUR: A 30-year-old woman devotee of Sathya Sai Baba was found dead under mysterious circumstances in a classroom of Sai Vidya Vahini, a school run by the Sathya Sai Central Trust, at Puttaparthi in Andhra Pradesh  this afternoon.
The woman, identified as Sai Prava of Delhi, used to be a coordinator at Sai Vidya Vahini but had resigned from her post recently.
She was found hanging from the ceiling of a classroom at around 12 noon by workers. As it is the summer vacation, there were no students in the school.
Members of the Sai Baba ashram’s Seva Dal informed the police. Though it is being described as a case of suicide for reasons yet unknown, the Puttaparthi police, who have registered a case, are investigating other possibilities.

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Posted by robertpriddy on June 4, 2017

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Jesus in India: research evidence (FAQ)

Posted by robertpriddy on June 2, 2017

The issue of the so-called ‘lost years’ of Jesus and whether Jesus visited India was very prominent in the Sathya Sai Baba movement. Sai Baba is on record as having stated that Jesus visited India (Sind, Puri, Varanesi) during those years in his life of which the gospels say nothing. Sai Baba was questioned about this by the Hollywood film maker, and devotee, Richard Bock, who was making the film ‘The Lost Years of Jesus‘. There is much evidence, though little known outside India, that Jesus did visit there as Sai Baba claimed. What Sai Baba did NOT mention or know about was the discoveries and consequent intensive independent professorial researches by Prof. Fida Hassnain of Pakistan (see his ground-breaking publication ‘A Search for the Historical Jesus’  1993 Gateway Books, Bath (excerpt here)

A website at contains an interesting overview of researches into the following questions:-

1. Where is this ‘Tomb’ of Jesus Christ situated?
2. How could anyone survive Crucifixion?
3. Why did Jesus go to India?
4. When did Jesus go to India?
5. What evidence is there that Jesus went to India?
6. What route did Jesus take?
7. How could Jesus have travelled so far without transport?
8. Has anyone written in support of this theory?
9. Which religion or group believe Jesus went to India?
10. Why is there no evidence about this theory in the Holy Bible or Quran?
11. How does this relate to the so-called “Shroud of Turin”?

12. What is meant by Jesus was a Buddhist?
13. Are the ‘Ancient Documents’ on this website reliable?
14. What do we know about the man who is said to be in Srinagar, Kashmir Tomb?
15. Who are the living experts on this theory?
16. Is this website designed to hurt Christianity?
17. What about Archarya S’ writings on the theory and the footprints?

Sai Baba famously claimed he was ‘the Father who sent Jesus’ and, claiming omniscience, he told many ‘original’ stories about Jesus, mostly during the Christmas celebrations at Prashanthi Nilayam. These stories contain numerous blunders, such as in his Christmas Discourse 1996  – some utterly preposterous (eg. that Moses loved Jesus!’) and other remarkable contrivances and self-contradictory statements about Jesus’ birth and death.

See  a comparison between the recorded aspects of Jesus with Sai Baba both in word and action.

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Advaita Vedanta – a delusory mysticism about illusion

Posted by robertpriddy on May 24, 2017

Intellectually the most complex and labyrinthine mystical ontological doctrine is advaita in its different variations. Advaitic doctrine can be regarded as an end station for seekers after mystical truth in that it would supercede all previous doctrines or theologies, whether religious or philosophical. In that it rejects any god or divinity other than indwelling consciousness, It rejects all theistic doctrines as rationally inadequate, showing them to be incomplete, partial or inconsistent. One might well call it the ultimate in monotheistic pantheism. It is highly speculative and appeals to the highest degree of subjectivity for its raison d’être and ultimate proof. Consequently, to show that it is inconsistent not only with empirical reality and experience, but above all, with itself would be important.

At its core is the issue of the self vs. the non-self, corresponding to being or nothingness. Such ontological debates were already raging at the time of the Buddha, who decided that all argumentation about this was pointless and it should be passed over in silence. Language is inherently dualistic, while advaita asserts that there is but one single reality, the rest being illusion. Thus, true knowledge is only to be obtained by direct perception (pratyaksha), not by “thinking through language.” Advaita went further than Wittgenstein, who only demonstrated that language very of causes “the bewitchment of intelligence”. Thus, “whereof one cannot speak, one must remain silent” was Wittgenstein’s agenda, though – unlike advaita, he held that one could also speak meaningfully and express truth through language if what it referred to was commonly observable. Advaita held only to what was privately observable (i.e. perceived).

Advaita as identified with Vedanta and originated in early Hinduism, coming to revived expression in the early 8th century in the works of Adi Shankara ( A-dvaita – lit. ‘non-dualism’ or ‘non-distinction’) Yet it has since developed many sub-variants, such as Ramana Maharshi’s otherworldly ‘teaching’ and Nisagardatta’s unsystematic explanations and proclamations. Many elements of it have been taken up and integrated in various ways into other Hindu sub-doctrines and by a plethora of gurus, swamis, godmen and women. It has also influenced the so-called New Age movement and their home-grown version of mysticism as also represented by an increasing number of ‘Western gurus’ who have learned the age old methods of the Eastern guru-disciple relationship.

One of the most cogent explanations of how this doctrine came about as a consequence of failures of preceding religious faiths and teachings has been given by Joel Kramer and Diana Alstead in their seminal book ‘The Guru Papers, Masks of Authoritarian Powers’ (North Atlantic Books, Berkeley) . I quote briefly:-

“Oneness, the pinnacle of religious abstraction, is the aspect of Eastern thought the West is currently the most enamoured of. The early Vedism of the Ayran invaders that superimposed itself on indigenous forms was a combination of polytheism, ancestor worship, and ritual sacrifice similar to Greek and other Indo-European religions.”

The authors point out how the more sophisticated non-duality of all being (advaitism) came to be after more concrete had to be discarded and the clash of sects caused a need for more universal religious ideas. This resulted in the increase the level of abstraction towards an ever more abstract monism (i.e. products of thought that refer mostly to thought itself, rather than the deities with form and the particularized doctrines about them) “The more abstract a symbol, the larger range of events it can include”. This is an attempt a making a rational metaphysical ‘spiritual doctrine’, but one which is entirely base on subjective experiences… and least of all those of any empirical or scientific nature. It is, however, easier to incorporate general notions from abstract science into ideas of Oneness etc. while denying physicalism in favour of idealism or ‘mentalism’.

“There is power in being able to incorporate. The more abstract a symbol, the larger range of events it can include one symbol into another. When the level of abstraction that people operate in is no longer satisfying or credible, for whatever reason (often because of advances in secular knowledge), the tendency is to look for a still higher level. “

“The more abstract a concept is the more it generalizes; and at the same time, it leaves out particulars, sometimes even the particulars of life itself. By abstracting the sacred from nature, the different religions in their diverse ways made nature low on the hierarchy of importance.”
“Concepts of spirituality became more abstract, moving from individual “spirits” embedded in nature to abstract principles and powers beyond nature. Through manipulating belief in the sacred symbols that represented these new abstractions, greater control over larger areas of human behaviour was made possible. …. The hierarchies within the emerging systems of sacred symbols mirrored and justified the developing hierarchies of secular power”

And so on, very illumining and showing that force in society which makes use of religion to control people. That what it’s all about and has always been about in most societies. Vedanta is ultimately an empty ideology which entraps ‘aspirants’ in a labyrinth of abstractions and confuses people about reality… like other forms of monotheism theology, it is a social power tool. It is often extremely otherworldly in its orientation, due to its cardinal denial of the reality of matter, the self, the world and so on.

One view on advaita is a that ikt is a tenable philosophy on the supposition that people can be ‘egoless’. Advaitists never define ‘ego’ so as to make clear exactly of what it is possible and desirable to rid oneself. When any advaitist uses the pronoun ‘I’, it expresses individual self-awareness and the assertion of that self. The very idea of ego is rooted in the sense of individual selfhood. Ideas of ‘egolessness’ rely on a combination of language confusions which include vagueness or ambiguity, misplaced concreteness, conflation of words, undue generalization and the observable fact that that people are more or less self-interested to some necessary degree. The common sense idea of being selfless means not being solely selfish, but taking account of others. To extend this to the idea that one can be totally unselfish is an empty speculation. To think that ‘selflessness’ and egolessness can be achieved is a confusion and often step towards giving up one’s autonomy in favour of a very abstract and non-testable doctrine. For advaitists it is a black or white alternative – either one surrenders totally (ones autonomy) or keeps it. However, there are many degrees of individual autonomy and relative selfless action. as to how one should behave.

The extent of giving up one’s self can be taken varies with religious sects and practitioners, from swami to swami and guru to guru. The most extreme are of the advaitic bent. It can take half a lifetime for anyone who really plunges deep into the spiritual exercises (sadhana) to penetrate to the depths of this pseudo-philosophical Advaita Vedanta. It is not just a mental exercise but requires full personal involvement in following the various precepts. If during the process one observes oneself as dispassionately as possible and without suppressing insights and personal experience, while also watching how others who claim to achieve selflessness or ‘self realisation’ behave, one can appreciate fully how it is a life-denying, futile and often dangerous belief system. Good luck to all who pursue real self-inquiry to the limits… this is the best protection against delusion and despair.

Many believe the claims about advaitist recluses (such as Ramana Maharshi see below), Nisargadatta and others like them) that they were in a state free of a sense of being an individual they had no sense of being the doer of actions, or the sense of there being a discreet and separate world the “individual” was living in. Not everybody is going to believe me on that. Ironically, they would say they were not enlightened, because there was no one to be enlightened, no individual there. Maharshi said once that he was like a radio that you hear it talking, but you open it up and there is no one inside.

If there is no sense whatever, how can one even relate any action to oneself in any way, or even regard them as actions at all? The whole idea implodes through it own unreasonability. It is true that intellectual ideas defining selfhood and ego (which have the same simple, common experiential root, the individual embodied existence) are constructs. Thus they are mind-dependent and necessarily die when the mind dies. (In contrast to Eastern religions, I reject the thesis that a living, animated mind survives death). Jean-Paul Sartre gave one of the most convincing analyses of the ego as a (mainly social) construct in ‘The Transcendence of the Ego’ and extended this analysis brilliantly, but somewhat too far into sheer metaphysical speculation in ‘Being and Nothingness’.

Defending the desirability of having no sense of being the doer of actions is to deceive oneself… a form of psychological or even pathological denial (of selfhood, responsibility, dependency – none of which actually disappear until death). That one can perceive oneself as not being a “discreet and separate individual” does not obviate the psycho-physical fact and all that follows from it. The desire to dissolve oneself in some universal bliss or emptiness or whatever – to escape one’s individuality – is understandable. It has its origin in the fear of death – or, as in Indian thought, on the “fear of samsara” and rebirth into individuality and all that it involves. Interestingly, most – but not all religions – reject suicide as the solution to this longing to escape reality.

In the place of human existence, all traditional religions grew from – and still in some fashion depend on – the existence of a spirit world of some kind (some transcendental reality). Ideas of this spirit world as a refuge from earthly woes developed into all manner of notions of paradise (though often with a counterpart world of hell and damnation). The primitive beliefs that the sky was heaven and hell was inside the volcanic earth became untenable in one culture after another. Perhaps the most sophisticated speculation as to the nature of paradise is found in Indian religious speculation – vedantic, dwaitic ,vishtadvaitic, advaitic etc. – as a condition of “being, bliss, and consciousness” (Satchitananda). This is supposedly disembodied, universal non-individual, eternally-existing being is the same as Godhood or Void (or whatever you name it) which creates the ‘physical’ universe as a mental illusion. One can construct all kinds of ideas of God whose divine will this may be supposed to be, but this too remains a mental construct. All of the above speculative ideas are bound together – often quite inseparably – in a wide variety of ways in the ‘teachings’ of Adi Shankara, Ramanuja, Ramakrishna, Aurobindo, Ramana Maharshi, Satchitananda , Sai Baba and a host of others. These ideas are recycled in all kinds of New Age variants and, of course, in all that Kassy writes here, which incidentally is in no way original at all (countless tracts have for centuries been filled with such speculations)-

Looked at from the general viewpoint of modern science, non-speculative philosophy and the many vastly developed areas of understanding of life and humanity today (entirely apart from all theology), the alleged ‘out of body, out of mind’ conditions of Maharshi, Nisagardatta and so on are to be regarded rather as pathological conditions, severe cognitive dissociation, sometimes relating to split or multiple personality. There are – of course – many forms of denial of selfhood. Adolph Eichmann considered his actions against the Jews as enforced by his superiors, and thus not his responsibility at all, this was not done in the name of selflessness, but out of self-preservation. Contrary to that are the amazing excesses of self-punishment and self-sacrifice to which fanatics through the ages have subjected themselves in efforts to rise above the body (i.e. with its senses – the real basis of the self).

Losing one’s ego and/or ‘mind’ is the goal of nearly all gurus. It is a fact that nirvana/sartori/moksha etc. are held to be conditions of consciousness where the ego and the mind no longer exist. However, Eastern philosophy, psychology and scripture continually do insist that the mind survives the body (being known as manas – one of the supposed ‘sheaths’ of the self. This is the basis of alleged rebirth and is the carrier of ‘past karma’ to the new individual. Believe it if you can! Seldom do those who are so focused on the ‘ego’ and ‘egolessness’ define ‘ego’. They use the word in different – often contradictory – ways, conflating the different meanings. Some regard the ego as body-sense, some as the mind itself (preaching “go beyond the mind” etc). There are many in-between positions and variants. The development of a sense of ‘I’ is unavoidable in normal, sane children. The development of an assertive, self-concerned ego à la Freud is simply an absolutely necessary element in human survival. The word ‘ego is, however, also widely used in the sense of undue selfishness, clinging to me and mine, possessiveness etc.. (hence the common put down of ‘ego-maniacs).

To rid oneself of selfishness – becoming ‘selfless’ in the sense of sacrificing one’s own interests to benefit others – is not the same as the advaitic goal – which is to rid oneself of every kind of identification with anything except Atma. Life without any identification is unthinkable. One cannot take temporary enthusiasms and joys (while in good health and secure from threats) as any sort of advaitic self-realization. Yet many in their spiritual arrogance do so. Identification with a mental and wholly unknowable verbal abstraction ‘Atma’ – in hoping it will somehow appear as a real entity (perhaps in some afterlife)- can be described as systematic, long-term self-brain washing. As Paramahamsa Ramakrishna once said, for every one who survives the attempt to know the Atma, a thousand others go mad. The goal of being, awareness, bliss – once attained – means one loses ALL interest in the world. I consider that to be a miasma anyhow. It is supposed to confer omniscience, limitless consciousness etc. But those who supposedly attained it have not enriched human knowledge in any way that has real consequences, or science would have been superfluous.

Subjectively, belief and submersion in all those ideas and practices can give a boost for a time and extraordinary synchronicities often misnamed “miracles” (I know from much experience) but it wears thinner and thinner as one matures and discovers the delusional aspects of it all (if one is lucky or strong enough in personality/spirit!). In the objective world the inquiry into the self along ego-removal lines achieves such results as Maharshi – essentially just sitting all his adult life in a cave – until he withered away from cancer. He was taken as a teacher by the impressionable (including for a time by Dr. Paul Brunton, who made him famous but who eventually broke with Maharshi and his life-denying thought and practices).

I am not defending Brunton’s mentalism or his very different and more insightful view of the Gita and its supposed ‘true hidden’ meaning… far from it. Yet it did exhibit the fruitlessness for human education and social development of Maharshi’s “teaching”. It can best be judged in the light of his actions – fasting a lot and sitting half-clothed all day, not speaking most of the time, being worshipped too. In this – it is presumably claimed – he helped raise the poor souls who visited him to a higher level… but I rather view modern education, health care, and countless other activities express genuine love through action. Those can give true liberation from superstition, the yoke of gurus and pundits and the ills of the world. That is much harder to achieve than self-indulgent concentration on one’s personal salvation, realization… Many who claim to be adherents of advaita indulge in constant worship rituals too… Ramakrishna was a prime example, but there are many gurus today who rake in the money in the name of advaitic beliefs. This illustrates its function in India society as an anti-autonomy and socially repressive element. It is ‘opium for the people’ in dire pain and have no other recourse.

To base one’s life entirely on the speculative imagination and rid oneself of all logical (i.e. systematic conceptual) reason is not exactly helpful to humanity, without which the dark ages of ignorance, diseases and miserable want would still reign supreme. Today we have very hard-won human rights and values and even the proportion of people affected by warfare is also vastly reduced. For all the problems of humanity today, things would be far worse if everyone spent their time in so-called navel-gazing like the confused ‘who am I’ meditation. To a large extent that weakens perceptions and positively helpful involvement in the actual world of real and individualized people, those with a high degree of autonomy in their lives, especially as to their own minds and thought. Besides, not a few I have known became mentally disturbed, sometimes psychotic, or suffered in other avoidable ways largely through their involvement in these ideologies.

I have closely observed several ‘’spiritual communities”, especially in India, where there is massive talk about service to mankind as service to God – but the results are a flea-bite compared to the vast sufferings and grinding poverty of hundreds of millions that life-denying ‘advaita’ religion has served to bequeath to that country. Mostly it is a form of self-advertisement to attract more unwitting followers who would do good. It is the scene of some of the most ghastly inhumanities and horrors known today – with a highly devoted but a criminally corrupt ruling class, where lip service to (Hindu-dominated) religion still plays a major role. Maharshi is one of the “spiritual pillars” of Hindu beliefs – along with other such unworldly escapists like Yogananda and others I have mentioned. One thing advaitists and other self-appointed proselytizers of the faiths related to it are never short of is words, words, words… as will doubtless be proved here shortly again. To be consistent, advaitists should begin by giving up the use of language, which individualises reality into discrete objects and ideas. Even Advaita recognizes this problem. Actually Meher Baba and others observed mouna for long periods (but they still couldn’t refrain from writing notes instead, amusing!).

According to the poetic mythology – the Mahabharata (including the Bhagavad Gita) written millennia afterward the mythological events depicted, Arjuna was encouraged to do battle and kill his relatives by Krishna who convinced him with the argument you promote that he is the deathless Atman (i.e. all-pervading divine consciousness), thus overcoming the fear and trembling from which he suffered. Fear was the crucial factor and we are supposed to believe there is something wonderful, subliminal about this. Though conscience and sympathy for others etc were also promoted, the overall doctrine is that everything is an illusion (‘maya’)… so none of it really matters. That, however, is the otherworldly delusion in a nutshell.

Ramana Maharshi

An uneducated recluse from Tamil Nadu born in 1879, who would have remained a nobody but for controversial writer on Eastern mysticism, Dr. Paul Brunton who made him famous but who later dissociated himself from Maharshi and his teaching. Brunton’s writings eventually attracted countless visitors to Maharshi in his cave at Tiruvannamalai.

Maharshi’s life exemplified how observing silence for many years of sitting and praying, repeating mantras and the like, eventually impressed others to revere him and induce him into offering ‘teachings’. He mostly practiced mouna or refraining from speaking, the belief being that language creates paradigms at all levels by individualising reality into discrete objects and ideas. Maharshi and many others (such as Meher Baba) practiced mouna, but – contradictorily, couldn’t refrain from writing notes instead (i.e. using language).

His belief was that ‘consciousness alone exists’ and that the awareness of those who doubt this alleged truth is obscured by the self-limiting ideas of the mind. To remove those limitations required a very long period of ‘spiritual practice’ of the kind he did. This is an age-old and entirely speculative religious doctrine which has led many to believe in going to the often unimaginably extreme lengths of isolation, self-denial (tapas) and rejection of life in the world.

Maharshi’s teaching was entirely traditional, its unoriginal unworldly idea typifying Hindu advaita applied by constant self-attention and negation of the world as an illusion. His remote otherworldliness did not add anything to the sum of verifiable or useful knowledge, though it attracted many people in search of mystical solutions to their life problems. He died of cancer in 1950.

Nisargardatta Maharaj

His informal talks have been published in books, the most prominent one being ‘I am That’. This title itself encapsulates the root advaitic idea and, at the same time, expresses it’s inherent contradiction. I did not avoic using the assertive ‘I’ and identify it with ‘that’ i.e. something else. It virtually amounts to ‘This is That’, yet ‘this’ is claimed not to exist!

Sathya Sai Baba

Around 1990, Sai Baba recommended “I Am That” by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. This book is a verbatim record of quite incisive questioning by truth seekers and the answers by Nisargadatta, claimed to be a totally realised Advaitist. It is not as vague and generalised as the constantly repeated standard teachings of Sai Baba or the stock answers he delivered to questions put to him, if and when he happened actually to answer rather than avoid the issue or change the subject.

The following question and answer helps encapsulate his position:
Questioner: What is realization? Who is a realised man? By what is gnani recognised?
Maharaj: There are no distinctive marks of gnana. Only ignorance can be recognised, not gnana. Nor does a gnani claim to be something special. All those who proclaim their own greatness and uniqueness are not gnanis. They are mistaking some unusual development for realisation. The gnani shows no tendency to proclaim himself to be a gnani. He considers himself to be perfectly normal, true to his real nature. Proclaiming oneself to be an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent deity is a clear sign of ignorance.” (`I Am That` Ch. 43, p. 193)

This book was recommended by one who claims just these things. One wonders if he actually read the book, assuming himself so exceptional as not to need to learn anything.

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Sai Baba cover-ups: new YouTube revelations

Posted by robertpriddy on May 6, 2017

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Prashanthi Nilayam hits out hard at fraudsters

Posted by robertpriddy on May 3, 2017

The former head of Prashanthi Nilayam ashram, K Chakravarthi (current secretary of the Sai Central Trust) has posted a long YouTube diatribe showcasing Sai Baba’s doings, the entire point of which is to attack Narasimha Murthy and his henchmen who are doing their utmost to usurp the Sai Baba brand and wrest authenticity as true devotees away from his Prashanthi sect. He denounces Narasimha Murthy and his protégé, the ‘subtle bodied oracle boy’ Madhu Sudan, in the strongest tongue-in-cheek terms he probably dares. 

To hear all the same old fantasies reeled out and backed by claims that all is essentially the same as it ever was in the Prashanthi following was yet another proof of the untruths and propaganda put out the same as ever. Chackravathi was forced to resign from his government position for embezzlement before Sai Baba chose him as head of Prashanthi ashram. A hard-nosed corrupt administrator was what Sai Baba then needed to run his water project and subsequently his Prashanthi ashram.

The YouTube video further reveals how total is the split between the two camps and how deeply it has affected the oríginal Sai Baba movement. Savvy observers ask why their ‘Bhagavan’ – the self-promoted all-powerful Godhead (and Creator of the Universe, no less)  – created such a huge and definitive split in his following as that between PN and Muddenahalli. Ah… the ways of the divine are indeed inscrutable. Meanwhile, the influence of Sai Baba’s legacy has dropped into insignificance worldwide, and is only maintained at all in India because it still has enough financial clout and control of its minions to bribe and cover up its unaccountability and dossier of crimes, quite apart from its utterly unsupportable claims of astounding miracles and the truth of historical myths and convenient lies spread throughout his life by Sathya Sai Baba. There is so much delusion piled upon delusion here that it is cannot hold water in the future and is bound to relegate Sathya Sai Baba to the extremely long historical list of failed claimants to be Deities, God, or even the Creator –  amid the long list of similar claimants (mainly nowadays in India). (Documented fully enough at

See also Was PM Modi discovered by Madhu Sudan, usurper of Sai Baba’s ‘subtle body’? 

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