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‘Prema Sai’ child to compete with Muddenahalli’s ‘oracle boy’ (Madhusudan) and Narasimha Murthy

Posted by robertpriddy on August 22, 2017

The Russians are starting to visit the ‘presumed Prema Sai’ in Mysore. A boringly pedestrian  video was filmed by two Russian women. The credits are claimed by Svyatoslav Dubiansky, promoting herelf as a writer and artist, but the video is as far from art as it is possible to get. The typically squirmy kiddo (‘Prema Sai’?) is getting many gifts from the foreigners, including a children’s motorcycle  (and his parents are no doubt getting some money too). He is shown playing like any child with presents, but no sign whatever of any spirituality can be discerned (as is said to have markes Sathya when that age). A video was filmed in the house of his parent in January 2017, with the mini Prema Sai now talking. It was posted on YouTube. There are clearly interests behind promoting this child who was hijacked as Prema Sai early on. No doubt this is seen as a way out of poverty into riches, if it takes off, as it may be doing, however uninspiring is is. There are buildings being constructed in the village. Another YouTube video introduces the two brothers of the ‘father of Prema Sai’, of course all of them are reaping the benefits of the totally random place and day the boy was born.
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Another Prema Sai appears, already fully grown

Posted by robertpriddy on November 7, 2016

As we predicted even before Sathya Sai Baba died, a crop of Prema Sai’s would appear. There are now already several claimants to the title, and two more have recently surfaced. The one presented below is from Tamil Nadu and, as one can see, he must have been going for a couple of decades at least before proclaiming himself.

Vr Ganti,  has shown himself to be a totally Sai-deluded hate merchant (see frenzied attack on me and other dissidents here)-

He has a Facebook page fully of fantasy and also a denunciation of a fraud Prema Sai, which is intersting,  in which he writes the following:-

 MEET SELF PROCLAIMED PREMA SAI……..ANOTHER FRAUDSTER….NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND MADHUSUDHAN NAIDU…..SUCH A BUFFOONS…..JOKERS……MORONS….BOTH OF THEM……BOTH USING SWAMI’S IMAGE FOR CHEATING INNOCENT DEVOTEES……NEED TO TAKE ACTION………BUT WHO ? THIS TIME ME…….
Tamil Nadu Prma Sai the elder

Child Prema Sai brought from Manipur  https://robertpriddy.wordpress.com/2016/11/04/child-prema-sai-brought-from-manipur/
Sathya Sai Baba replacements: Sukshma Sai, Prema Sai  July 30, 2015 There are several substitutes for the lost Sathya Sai Baba recognised by sections of the devotees he left behind.
Prema Sai’s place and time of birth controversy June 8, 2015 The alleged reincarnation of Sathya Sai Baba has been reported as taking place immediately after his death, one year later, or eight years later!”
Prema Sai child – overview of Telugu news video June 5, 2015 The announcement on Telugu TV9 that Prema Sai has been located in Doddamalur
Prema Sai is found Posted on June 3, 2015 They are doing pujas…they are doing bhajans…they are giving arathi..They are doing ground-breaking ceremonies for a new temple, they are filled with emotion.
Souljourns: Narasimha Murthy’s secret of Prema Sai January 10, 2015 The remaining U.S. devotees of Sathya Sai Baba are propagating as best the can their ‘stories’ about their God Incarnate guru
Prema Sai predicted coming December 17, 2012  Remaining devotees of Sathya Sai Baba await his return as a new incarnation, Prema Sai Baba. There is much confusion
Shirdi, Sathya and Prema Sai as one triple avatar? November 3, 2011 Sathya Sai Baba prophesied a further incarnation for himself as Prema Sai, thus to complete the task of the triple Sai Baba avatar.
Lunatic Devotee claims he is Prema Sai May 4, 2008 Tje new Prema Sai has a lunatic and fanatical supporter fringe which throws up some of the most comical nutters anywhere on the web.

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Child Prema Sai brought from Manipur

Posted by robertpriddy on November 4, 2016

Here we go yet again – Prema Sai’s are popping up all over. The race is on to usurp the alleged reincarnated Sai Baba Divinity. As I predicted long ago, the fight to become the prophesied ‘Prema Sai’ would have many contenders. Though Sathya Sai baba said that Prema Sai would be born in South India and no one would know of him before he was grown up, we now have a child one from Manipur claimed to be Prema Sai. This comes after numerous other Prema Sai’s have already appeared on the scene.

Manipur Prema Sai, now in Bangalore

Manipur Prema Sai, now in Bangalore

Sathya Sai Baba replacements: Sukshma Sai, Prema Sai…  July 30, 2015 There are several substitutes for the lost Sathya Sai Baba recognised by sections of the devotees he left behind.
Prema Sai’s place and time of birth controversy June 8, 2015 The alleged reincarnation of Sathya Sai Baba has been reported as taking place immediately after his death, one year later, or eight years later!”
Prema Sai child – overview of Telugu news video June 5, 2015 The announcement on Telugu TV9 that Prema Sai has been located in Doddamalur
Prema Sai is found Posted on June 3, 2015 They are doing pujas…they are doing bhajans…they are giving arathi..They are doing ground-breaking ceremonies for a new temple, they are filled with emotion.
Souljourns: Narasimha Murthy’s secret of Prema Sai January 10, 2015 The remaining U.S. devotees of Sathya Sai Baba are propagating as best the can their ‘stories’ about their God Incarnate guru
Prema Sai predicted coming December 17, 2012  Remaining devotees of Sathya Sai Baba await his return as a new incarnation, Prema Sai Baba. There is much confusion
Shirdi, Sathya and Prema Sai as one triple avatar? November 3, 2011 Sathya Sai Baba prophesied a further incarnation for himself as Prema Sai, thus to complete the task of the triple Sai Baba avatar.
Lunatic Devotee claims he is Prema Sai May 4, 2008 Tje new Prema Sai has a lunatic and fanatical supporter fringe which throws up some of the most comical nutters anywhere on the web.

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Prema Sai’s place and time of birth controversy

Posted by robertpriddy on June 8, 2015

The alleged reincarnation of Sathya Sai Baba has been reported conflictingly as taking place immediately after his death, one year later, or eight years later!” In the Richard Bock film, ‘Aura of Divinity’, made in the 1970s, the commentator asserts that Sathya Sai Baba has said that he will be reborn as Prema Sai eight years after his leaving the Sathya Sai body. The former Central Coordinator of UK, Sai Baba hagiographer Lucas Ralli, wrote that Sathya would rebirth one year after his death.

According to several pro-Sai sources, Sathya Sai Baba clearly stated that he would be reborn in Doddamalur, 20 kms. due North Mandya District of Karnataka, as reported in most pro-Sai sources. Yet several writers had already long since reported Sai Baba repeatedly having said that  the future birthplace of Prema Sai would be Gunapalli (or Gunaparthi) on the banks of the River Cauvery in Mandya District, such as Shakuntula Balu in her book ‘Living Divinity’ (Sai Towers Publishing, 1981).

India Today on the net wrote on December 4, 2000, the following:- “…Sai Baba’s future plans. He has predicted that he will die in 2022 and, eight years later, be reborn in Gunaparthi village of Karnataka’s Mandya district to a woman called Kasturi. His next avatar will be called Prema Sai Baba and will have nothing to do with Puttaparthi.” (http://www.india-today.com/itoday/20001204/cover3.shtml#devotee)

Yet more conflicting testimony exists. In a lecture for foreigners in January 1985 at Prashanthi Nilayam which I attended,  Sai Baba’s biographer, Professor  N. Kasturi , told us that, while driving in his car with him past a small village called Chandrapatna in Karnataka State (some 38 kms South West of Bangalore), Sai Baba said to him that he would ”take rebirth” there and that Kasturi would be his mother! This was also published by Kasturi who disarmingly suggested it may have just been said in fun. (One can add that Kasturi was careful not to promote his own ego too much as he had suffered greatly from Sai Baba’s anger before) , and was also stated on April 28, 2011, by The Times of India (Bangalore) i.e. days after the funeral. According to Ramadas, who runs a Krishna charitable trust, Prema Sai will be born in this village after 2023, as predicted by Sathya Sai Baba. “Ramadas said Baba had predicted that his personal assistant, Narayan Kasturi, who died long ago, will reincarnate himself as a woman in a village near Bhadravathi, marry a person from this village and give birth to Prema Sai. “Today you are my assistant, in the next life you will be my mother,” Sai Baba is supposed to have said.” (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Prema-Sai-will-be-born-in-Doddamalur/articleshow/8102665.cms)

See also  Prema Sai is found  and Prema Sai child – overview of Telugu news video

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Prema Sai predicted coming

Posted by robertpriddy on December 17, 2012

Prema Sai Baba's predicted arrival

This was the official ‘story’ which will now need much adjusting!

Remaining devotees of Sathya Sai Baba await his return as a new incarnation, Prema Sai Baba. There is much confusion as to when this may take place, all calculations having been thrown into complete disarray by the failure of Sathya Sai Baba to live into his 90s. Despite specious claims that he DID live to be 96 if one reckons in terms of lunar years, he clearly stated  in 1960 “I will be in this mortal form for 59 years” and in 1961 “I shall be in this body for 58 years more”. (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. I –  p 198 & Vol 2 – p. 92). He also made several other incompatible predictions of his lifespan. 

It has variously been stated that the rebirth will take place either immediately, one year later or else eight years after Sathya Sai Baba would  ‘leave the body’. However, in a book now circulating called ‘Sai Thy Kingdom Come’, the author – a not entirely literate Indian – speculates that Sai Baba will reincarnate (most like in 2014) and live in his Sathya Sai form again for 7 years! Read an analysis of this book by Sreejith Narayan and it’s basis made in 2014 by clicking here. Also see Narasimha Murthy’s claims on Souljourns video about Prema Sai

SBdeath_2022On the Richard Bock film, Aura of Divinity, made in the 1970s, the commentator asserts that Sathya Sai Baba has said that he will be reborn as Prema Sai eight years after his leaving the Sathya Sai body. Since the entire international dating system is claimed by Sai authorities and traditional shastris not to apply to Sai Baba, it’s anyone’s guess when this is supposed to occur.

[ Up-date June 2014: It was claimed (by Isaac Tigrett) that Sai Baba returned in a ‘subtle body’ to hold discourses as Kodaikanal, but this was denied by the Prasanthi Council and also was considered not so by Sreejith Narayan, though his sidekick the bogus ‘the author of scholar’ Waris Faridi believed it. (Neither were present to the event)]

Yet more awkward, Sathya Sai Baba clearly stated that he would be reborn in Doddamalur, 20 kms. due North Mandya District of Karnataka, as reported in most pro-Sai sources. However, he also told his biographer Kasturi, while driving with him past a small village called Chandrapatna in Karnataka State (some 38 kms South West of Bangalore), that he would ”take rebirth” there and that Kasturi would be his mother! Kasturi told this in a lecture for foreigners in January 1985 where I heard him. It was also published somewhere by Kasturi).  Further:-

The Second Coming of Christ, no less!

“Sai Baba speaks of a trinity of Sais. He would live to be 96 years, until 2022; eight years after his death (in 2030) the third Sai, Prema Sai will be born in a village in Mandya district of Karnataka. The three Sai’s will embrace the three major religions of the world — the Shirdi Baba Islam; Satya Sai Baba Hinduism and Prema Sai Christianity. It will be the second coming of Christ.”  from book review in The Tribune, Chandigarth, October 4, 1999. ‘About the other Sai Baba’ by P. D. Shastri (see http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/7/W/P.D.%20Shastri.htm)

However, other writers had previously reported Sai Baba repeatedly said the future birthplace of Prema Sai would be Gunapalli (or Gunaparthi) on the banks of the River Cauvery. To try to remove doubt, Sai promoters now claim that Doddamalur will be renamed Gunaparthi (or Gunapalli?) after the birth. But Gunaparthy already exists, apparently, according to an MSN report  Such is the nature of rationalization in denial!
(Here are the news outlets which confirm some conflicting reports:-

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 Gunaparthy
 Doddamalur


Once again it is a case of “take your pick” and believe what you want. That there are takers and convinced believers of every such published rumour is certain! There are, moreover, persons who claim to be Prema Sai already, and one can bet ones bottom dollar on there being many other claimants as the years roll by! Avatars and saints literally abound in India, virtually all originally self-announced, it is one way out of India’s constant crushing poverty, with the prospect of a great fortune and all the worldly benefits it brings with it to a community that can boast a true avatar. Sathya Sai Baba demonstrated this for all his many copyists. What about Chandrapatna, then… will that also be renamed, we wonder? All quite typical of Sathya Sai Baba’s shifting fantasies to feed the rumour mill that made him what he was!

Donald Taylor wrote “A way in which Sai Baba has met a potential challenge to his authority is to thwart any discussion about his successor… By defusing the problem of succession, he also defused the problem of authority. All authority remains firmly in his hands as long as he lives. Anyone else who claims this authority in Sai Baba’s lifetime will be recognized as a usurper or imposter.” (Charismatic Authority in the Sathya Sai Baba movement” 1987, Tavistock Publications, pp.119-133)

85th Birthday: Golden Age, Prema Sai Baba

Golden Age discredited
UPDATE as of june 2015! PREMA SAI IS FOUND IN DODDAMALUR, SOUTH INDIA – A 4-YEAR OLD BOY. This will upset Narasimha Murthy’s applecart unless he and his cronies can somehow readjust their narrative to include and embrace this discovery. Of course, it is all hoo-ha, typical Hindu guru delusion and manufactured divinity.

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