Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

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Prema Sai at Muddenahalli, former Sai student is half-enthroned there

Posted by robertpriddy on February 25, 2018

Apparently oracle boy is now officially declaring he is Prema Sai!
But he still does not dare sit on the throne chair!

Devotees still loyal to Sathya Sai Baba and Prashanthi Nilayam are demanding that anyone going to visit the ‘oracle boy’ at Muddenahalli should be absolutely banned from setting foot into Prasanthi Nilayam ashram; apparently someone put up a sign by the gate saying that but the ashram took the sign down and now these devotees are complaining that the sign was removed. No one seems to pay respect to the ‘Central Trust’, calling them spineless, cowards and more, even though they were appointed by the ‘poorna avatar‘ himself, and their faith is in tatters (if they really had any but saw through the smoke and mirrors). They don’t seem to be expressing love and tolerance taught by their guru!

Meanwhile, Madhusudan and the Muddenahalli scam has for a second year running committed the utmost of transparent fraud by coughing up a lingam at Shivarathri in copy of Sathya Sai. However it was Harry Houdini (1874-1926), who perfected the trick!
“An old Japanese gentleman… taught Harry how to swallow an ivory ball, show his mouth empty, then bring the ball back. Houdini practiced the regurgitation stunt with a small peeled potato on the end of a string. If the string didn’t permit the student swallower to retrieve the potato while he was developing the muscles in his throat, there was no danger. The potato would slide down into his stomach where it could be digested. A few weeks of practice and Harry could handle solid ivory balls almost as well as his instructor. Later the resourceful Houdini was to use the regurgitation technique to baffle committeemen who searched him for concealed tools during his handcuff act.” (Excerpt from Houdini: The Untold Story by Milbourne Christopher, London: Cassell, 1969, p. 23). This led to countless others including the famous Waldo performing this trick (see Wikipedia)

Terry Reis Kennedy commented that what he is trying to do is “bore us to death… then he can set up his kingdom at Parthi. All those who are asleep there might not even notice!” and , “this is the second year that he is putting on this show…” 

Another commentator put up a picture with deluded Isaac Tigrett asleep during the ceremony!

Erlendur Haraldsson and Sai Baba’s “materialisation” of golden lingams (YouTube)
Sathya Sai Baba Lingams and ‘regurgitation’

 

 
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Prema Sai’s place and time of birth controversy

Posted by robertpriddy on June 8, 2015

The alleged reincarnation of Sathya Sai Baba has been reported conflictingly as taking place immediately after his death, one year later, or eight years later!” In the Richard Bock film, ‘Aura of Divinity’, made in the 1970s, the commentator asserts that Sathya Sai Baba has said that he will be reborn as Prema Sai eight years after his leaving the Sathya Sai body. The former Central Coordinator of UK, Sai Baba hagiographer Lucas Ralli, wrote that Sathya would rebirth one year after his death.

According to several pro-Sai sources, Sathya Sai Baba clearly stated that he would be reborn in Doddamalur, 20 kms. due North Mandya District of Karnataka, as reported in most pro-Sai sources. Yet several writers had already long since reported Sai Baba repeatedly having said that  the future birthplace of Prema Sai would be Gunapalli (or Gunaparthi) on the banks of the River Cauvery in Mandya District, such as Shakuntula Balu in her book ‘Living Divinity’ (Sai Towers Publishing, 1981).

India Today on the net wrote on December 4, 2000, the following:- “…Sai Baba’s future plans. He has predicted that he will die in 2022 and, eight years later, be reborn in Gunaparthi village of Karnataka’s Mandya district to a woman called Kasturi. His next avatar will be called Prema Sai Baba and will have nothing to do with Puttaparthi.” (http://www.india-today.com/itoday/20001204/cover3.shtml#devotee)

Yet more conflicting testimony exists. In a lecture for foreigners in January 1985 at Prashanthi Nilayam which I attended,  Sai Baba’s biographer, Professor  N. Kasturi , told us that, while driving in his car with him past a small village called Chandrapatna in Karnataka State (some 38 kms South West of Bangalore), Sai Baba said to him that he would ”take rebirth” there and that Kasturi would be his mother! This was also published by Kasturi who disarmingly suggested it may have just been said in fun. (One can add that Kasturi was careful not to promote his own ego too much as he had suffered greatly from Sai Baba’s anger before) , and was also stated on April 28, 2011, by The Times of India (Bangalore) i.e. days after the funeral. According to Ramadas, who runs a Krishna charitable trust, Prema Sai will be born in this village after 2023, as predicted by Sathya Sai Baba. “Ramadas said Baba had predicted that his personal assistant, Narayan Kasturi, who died long ago, will reincarnate himself as a woman in a village near Bhadravathi, marry a person from this village and give birth to Prema Sai. “Today you are my assistant, in the next life you will be my mother,” Sai Baba is supposed to have said.” (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Prema-Sai-will-be-born-in-Doddamalur/articleshow/8102665.cms)

See also  Prema Sai is found  and Prema Sai child – overview of Telugu news video

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Prema Sai child – overview of Telugu news video

Posted by robertpriddy on June 5, 2015

The announcement on Telugu TV9 that Prema Sai has been located in Doddamalur – despite the assurance that Sathya Sai baba gave that he would be unknown until teenage, can surely only increase the acrimonious rivalry between the various factions fighting for the Sai Baba brand and all that it brings with it to those who succeed. Our Telugu translator writes:- The poor boy, his life will be changed forever, his personality will be shaped and probably not for the better. The mother seems very naive, innocent and honest. We can expect coaching will be added to their education, especially if those will ulterior motives join the fray. (The father was not in the video, at least not in the 50 of the 75 min)

Here are the highlights:

1. A spiritual guru named Vijaya Devi from the state of Manipur in India, sent several of her devotees to Doddamallur village in Karnataka, where sb said he would be born as Prema Sai. She told them how to test the children in the village to see who was the avatar.

(Comment: It is typical of gurus who are always seeking to enhance their fame and following, not least finance and power, to use crafty ploys. What better idea than to announce the advent of Prema Sai, for whom so many desperate devotees of Sathya are waiting to appear?

2. The men rented space in the home of Dr Srinivas (the elderly guy in white in the video). Dr Srinivas told them about a devotee named ‘Swami’ who came to the village and revealed that he had a dream about Prema Sai being born, including the signs. The devotee ‘Swami’ met the declared Prema Sai and said he matched the signs in his dream (it is unclear whether this devotee came before or after the Manipur devotees picked the boy).

3. The Manipur devotees went house to house in the village, meeting all the young boys of the right age (born after sb died) and testing them. One of the tests is for the devotees to repeat a mantra, if the boy mouthed the words along with him. The chosen boy, named ‘Preetam’ passed all the tests. He was born in June 2012.

Comment:- This is a predictable game: the least likely are eliminated until there is one left, so he must be the one. What a parody of spirituality!

4. The boy Preetam’s mother is named Tejamani and works in a garment factory. The father is named Mahesh and he is a salesman. They are a poor family.

5. Manipur devotees financed a trip to take the parents and the boy to guru Vijaya Devi in Manipur, where the boy laid the foundation stone of a temple and received the ardent worship of devotees. There are plans to build a temple in Doddamallur village also. Scenes of the plane trip, a hysterically crying guru Vijaya Devi (of happiness, I assume), bhajans, worship of the feet and a sullen and mystified-looking boy Preetam.

6. Dr Srinivas seems incapable of answering simple questions, instead he rambles on about other things. He finally admits that the reason he has 100% faith in the boy, is because the Manipur devotees seem honest and he trusts them.

Comment: This is risible! That is how 100% faith is delivered. But any such belief is a prison, one which will entrap many who get indoctrinated and, above all, steal all hope of a normal life from this chil.

7. Life interview with the mother of the boy, who says there have been no signs or miracles. It is stressed this is the “starting” and at the age of 8, the boy will ‘manifest’ as Prema Sai, show miracles and start his mission. It was not mentioned how they got this info. Preetam also came on live, he was squirming a lot and looked bored.

Comment: The test will be whether this bored and squirming boy will reproduce the kind of impossible Krishna child miracles as it was claimed by zealous and deeply superstitious villagers in Puttaparti claimed the child Sathya Narayana did. There will, of course, be no independent investigators or scientists allowed near him, as the mythology must be developed by the cadres around him so that their financial futures are secured.

The video includes conversations with two psychiatrists, one an ardent devotee (who does past-life regression) and the other who does not believe in the boy nor in reincarnation, telling of the dangers inherent of worshipping a small boy as god.

Past-life regression is a total scam. It does not even merit the title of pseudo-science since there is not even any attempts at a single figment of scientific testing involved by its practitioners. They are all doubtless either confused and deluded, however unwitting they may be, or else they are outright charlatans.

For further information on the TV programme and photos, see Prema Sai is found

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Prema Sai is found?

Posted by robertpriddy on June 3, 2015

What Sathya Sai Baba told about the coming of Prema Sai, as his next and final third incarnation as avatar was somewhat conflicting. Nonetheless, he was adamant that Prema Sai would not be known to the world in his childhood and would emerge later when mature enough. Since Prema Sai should be born anything from 1 to 8 years after the demise of Sathya was the time frame he gave. Since he died in 2011, this indicated that Prema Sai could not emerge until at least 14 years later, that is not before about 2025 at the earliest. He would look like the image based on that on a ring given by Sathya Sai Baba to John Hislop:-

There were several supposed  ‘official stories” accepted during the lifetime of Sathya. In the official Sai literature, Baba was reported as having given on different occasions two different places for the birth. In a lecture for foreigners in January 1985 at Prashanthi Nilayam which I attended Sai Baba’s biographer N. Kasturi told us that, while driving with him past a small village called Chandrapatna in Karnataka State (some 38 kms South West of Bangalore), Sai Baba said to him that he would ”take rebirth” there and that Kasturi would be his mother! (Kasturi also published this in one of his many writings).  Another account was that he would incarnate in Doddamalur (see Times of India scan: http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/Images/ToI-DODDAMALUR.jpg) Further, in his book ‘Srl Sathya Sai Saba and the Future of Mankind‘, SP Ruhela, asserted that Prema Sai will live from 2030 to 2116 and gave various new details about the coming incarnation. Another prediction widely believed in was:-

The official ‘stories’ all called for considerable adjusting because of the premature death of Sathya Sai Baba in 2011! None of the various conflicting predictions Sathya Sai Baba made as to his lifespan (i.e. from 92 to 96 years of age) held up. This failure threw into disarray all the predictions Baba made of the time frames to his return in the incarnation as Prema Sai Baba. Not surprising to those who know the manipulations of fact and faulty propaganda spread by Sai Baba and all his various institutions through the decades. At his unexpected death, disappointed officials and zealots made the specious claim that Sai Baba DID live to be 96 if one reckons in terms of lunar years. However, none of the calculations based on lunar months (as opposed to calendar months) agreed with any of the various dates he had predicted. Nor does the lunar theory fit with what he clearly stated in 1960 “I will be in this mortal form for 59 years” and in 1961 “I shall be in this body for 58 years more“. (Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. I –  p 198 & Vol 2 – p. 92).

Despite that, since shortly after Sathya’s funeral, various people already began announcing the discovery of Prema Sais here and there. Prominent among these is the Muddenahalli ‘oracle boy’ Madhusudana (aka Sukshma Baba) who began to cough up sivalingams on Shivarathri and has stated that he is himself Prema Sai! All pretence that Sukshma Baba (former Sai student Madhusudan) is merely an instrument or ‘oracle boy’ is finally dropped. He had reinvented himself as Sathya Sai Baba, no less, who read the text proclaiming this  and approved it! At the same time he is pretending he is Prema Sai Baba. Two for the price of one! In Issue Seventy One – April 16, 2017 of the  Muddenahalli propaganda magazine, one can read the following:-
See Prema Sai at Muddenahalli, former Sai student is half-enthroned there

4-YEAR OLD CHILD WORSHIPPED AS PREMA SAI

4-YEAR OLD CHILD WORSHIPPED AS PREMA SAI

Read more on Prema Sai Prema Sai predicted as third Sai Baba incarnation
ALSO CONTINUATION OF THE DODDAMALUR PREMA SAI INFORMATION Has Satya Sai Baba been reborn? – Part 2

One fanciful example of the Prema Sai scams was presented as follows:-

They are doing pujas…they are doing bhajans…they are giving arathi..They are doing ground-breaking ceremonies for a new temple, they are filled with emotion. On one side is a statue of Sathya Sai Baba, on the other side they are falling on the ground full-body, doing namaskar (shastanga namaskar) to a boy. It’s been a long 4-year wait, but finally, the first ‘REAL’ Prema Sai, a boy who is 3 years old! This is from a 75-minute Telugu Video Has Satya Sai Baba reborn? – Part 1 – Tv9

The playing field is already filling up with this new challenge to the two factions which are warring for the Sai Baba brand. (Prashanthi Nilayam vs. Muddenahalli). Give it a few more years and there certainly will be yet more Prema Sais, more ambitious rival factions fighting to get on the gravy train. The poor boy, his life will be changed forever, his personality will be shaped and probably not for the better. Out translator says: “The mother seems very naive, innocent and honest. I expect coaching will be added to their education, especially if those will ulterior motives join the fray. This is Hinduism’s ugly side, the grotesque, ugly and deluded religious guru-fanaticism.” 

TRANSLATOR’S TRANSCRIPT & SUMMARY OF SOME MINUTES:-
1:05: It’s been four years since Sathya Sai Baba took his last breath; this boy was born over a year after he left the body. People are worshipping the feet of this boy. What is really happening here? What is this devotion and happenings? Where is this happening? Was Sathya Sai born again, is Prema Sai born again?
2:14, Lady commentator comes on and says basically what is written above.
(Scenes of the village) This is a village in Karnataka. Beautiful village, peaceful minds (etc).
3:02, A villager talks about how five people came from Manipur to their village and went house to house searching. (Commentator:) They searched for about two and a half months. They carefully looked at each small child. Villagers had doubt and even wondered if they wanted to kidnap a child. They finally asked the group what they were doing.
3:47, They group from Manipur said their guru told them to come to this village and search, because Sathya Sai was born again.
4:11, The boy was born in June last week in 2012 (4:33, scenes of the five guys from Manipur). The group from Manipur declared that without a doubt, this boy was Prema Sai Baba. (Commentator describes the history of devotees believing in the 3rd Sai avatar, including him declaring he’d be born in Doddamallur village in Karnataka.)
5:59, One of the Manipur guys speaks in Hindi about searching for Prema Sai. Commentator: The boy fulfilled all the tests that the Manipur guru asked them to perform on young boys in the village.

6:28, Lady Commentator asks questions about who exactly is the boy, who was he born to, etc. Some history and info on Sathya Sai follows, complete with all the heresy about his miracles etc. (Video withdrawn from YouTube)

Yet another claimant to the Prema Sai brand name went to town with his own absurd promotional campaign:-

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Souljourns: Narasimha Murthy’s secret of Prema Sai

Posted by robertpriddy on January 10, 2015

The remaining U.S. devotees of Sathya Sai Baba are propagating as best the can their ‘stories’ about their God Incarnate guru on videos under the heading ‘Souljourns’. These are a group of old timer ‘true believers’, including a bevy of gushing old women. They apparently interview anyone who has good stories  to tell if they are known to have had long-term contact with Sai Baba (strictly excluding the hundreds of persons close to Sai Baba who found out the truth of massive deceptions and crimes who became dissidents). In an interview already referenced in some detail here, the lifelong adherent Narasimha Murthy told of his total subservience to Sai Baba’s will from virtually before he matured as an adult person. He relates experiences of Sai Baba both in person, but not least in his dreams… especially since Sai Baba departed this life in 2011 since when his activities have still been directed (he believes) by Sai Baba. In the course of his video interview, he was asked about the prophesied emergence of Sai Baba’s supposed ‘third and final avataric incarnation’ Prema Sai, which Murthy confirmed Sai Baba had said would come. But he also claimed that Sai Baba had told him things about Prema Sai which are not for the public at this stage. Murthy did not tell whether Sai Baba had told him this in person while alive or in a dream (whether before or after his death). Whichever is the case, the claim will create further fanatical interest in believers and has the effect of focussing interest on Murthy himself, the clique around him and the projects he and they endorse… such as building schools in out-of-the-way places and the continuance of myths about Sai Baba giving darsans in a ‘subtle body’ and through channellers and other ‘invisible’ impressions. It can be an element in the vicious turf war between the two major factions in the entire Sai Baba sphere. However, Murthy ignores the evidence already published. In a lecture for foreigners in January 1985 at Prashanthi Nilayam which I attended Sai Baba’s biographer N. Kasturi, he told us that, while driving with him past a small village called Chandrapatna in Karnataka State (some 38 kms South West of Bangalore), Sai Baba said to him that he would ”take rebirth” there and that Kasturi would be his mother! This was also published by Kasturi  in his writings.  But the Times of India reported an entirely different account – that the rebirth would take place in Doddamalur, off the Bangalore-Mysore highway (one claiming it would occur after 2023).  It has also variously been stated that the rebirth will take place either immediately, one year later or else eight years after Sathya Sai Baba would  ‘leave the body’. On the Richard Bock film, Aura of Divinity, made in the 1970s, the commentator asserts that Sathya Sai Baba has said that he will be reborn as Prema Sai eight years after his leaving the Sathya Sai body. Lucas Ralli had said he learned it would be within one year (whether by word of mouth, dreams or sheer fancy… who can say). Narasimha Murthy, like all parroting devotees, spoke as if he were an authority in saying: “Today, the real crisis in the world, not only in India, is the crisis of bankruptcy of spiritual and moral values“. Having been involved for 18 years in the Sai Organisation as its leader in Norway, I had rich opportunities to confirm that this was not least the case within the Sai movement, where many of the people regarded as VIP devotees constantly preached Sai Baba’s doctrines while time and again they showed in deed that – like him – they really held little or no respect for the values of truth, justice, human rights, freedom of expression, women’s’ rights, the ashrams’ murder victims or for the many most credible and brave claimants of constant and very numerous sexual molestations of boys and young males by Sai Baba. While many of the ordinary members did excellent service and can be said to have shown love in action, very little of this was seen from all the authoritarian and self-seeking ‘officials’ in the ashrams or any of the Sai organisations and institutions. All this is documented in this blog and on my main Sai Baba website to a full extent, and not a single statement has been challenged successfully with counter-documentation or, of course, by any legal means whatever. I maintain that I have written nothing but the truth to the best of my knowledge, experience and ability to express the facts. It is a telling fact that only a handful of persons have dared to publish any counter-claims, and then have desisted because of the insightful and honest reactions that came from dissidents around the world. Well over two million visits to my various Sai Baba pages since 2000 are recorded and the so-called Sai Petition has received well over 1600 signatures, very often with illumining comments and information on their reasons for disaffection. The latest signature is but one telling example:-

Scan of latest signature on the Sai petition. Click on image to see source

Scan of latest signature on the Sai petition. Click on image to see source

UPDATE as of june 2015! PREMA SAI IS FOUND IN DODDAMALUR, SOUTH INDIA – A 4-YEAR OLD BOY. This will upset Narasimha Murthy’s applecart unless he and his cronies can somehow readjust their narrative to include and embrace this discovery. Of course, it is all hoo-ha, typical Hindu guru delusion and manufactured divinity.

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