Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

Exposing major deceits by guru Sathya Sai Baba in India, incl. murders cover-up & widely alleged sexual abuse

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Indian swami fully defends Sathya Sai Baba sexual abuse of children!

Posted by robertpriddy on October 26, 2011

What some Sathya Sai Baba followers say to affirm and support child sex abuse as a divine act continues to shock any decent person! On the other hand, most will probably laugh at the reasoning and marvel at the level of perverse-minded delusion and immorality that Indian swamis and other Sai followers who cannot deny the massive testimony can attain. Fortunately for India and Hinduism, this kind of fanatical theology is not accepted by the vast majority of Hindus! The following tract was was found posted on the ‘Lisa Shea Forums’ website with its laughable sub-title of “Parakeet, Romance, Literature”. There is plenty more where that came from… and some ironists who comment there have had a great time parodying this too. (Editors note: Datta Swami is himself a claimant to avatarhood… the absurdity of all these avatars who are really only impostors trying to gain followings they can control and which will serve them obediently in awe):-

Datta Swami answers the Scandals against Shri Sathya Sai Baba

Q. How can the reports of the scandalous actions of Shri Sathya Sai Baba be explained?

(The question is again elaborated as below]

We recently came across a website describing the various scandals pertaining to Shri Satya Sai Baba. Apparently there have been hundreds if not thousands of cases of alleged (homosexual, and mental) abuse of men and young children. There have also been cases of murder. Some of the abuse cases have firsthand witnesses or the abused persons have themself reported their own experiences. There are just too many cases to simply dismiss them as rumours. If these incidents had been rare or few in number, one could neglect them considering them to be special exceptions such as the affairs of Krishna with the Gopikas.

Lord Rama who killed Vali from the back, which was a violation of Kshatriya Dharma but it can be argued that He did so only to protect Sugriva who had approached Him for help. So Lord Rama was only proving that He can even violate dharma for the sake of a devotee who approaches the Lord. Not only, that, He also suffered the consequences of this violation during Krishna Avatara. Lord Rama certainly did not have multiple “murder cases” pending on him. All the other people that He killed, were killed only while following Kshtriya dharma on the battlefield. Moreover, the people who He killed were evil people. Thus the violations of dharma done by Rama and Krishna were only in exceptional cases.

However in case of Shri Baba these ‘exceptions’ seem to be very common. If the Sadguru who is an incarnation, abuses (mentally or sexually) or even murders a very close devotee who is on the path of nivrutti, then it is acceptable. It can be considered as an advanced test for an advance devotee. However based on the sheer number of Sai devotees, who have had such experiences, it is unlikely that all these people were advanced seekers on the path of nivrutti. This is because, at any given time, there can be only a handful of such highly advanced devotees. Even though the abused persons believed in Him as God, they cannot be technically said to be on the path of nivrutti. This is proved, since they objected to the abuse; an advanced devotee like Gopikas would not have objected. This means that the abused people were on the path of Pravrutti.

In dealing with people who are in Pravrutti, doesn’t the Lord follow the rules of dharma? If we take the example of Shri Ganpati Shachidananda Swami, we see that he recommends rituals, chanting, singing etc. This shows that He is dealing with devotees who are in Pravrutti. He does not show any such extremely negative qualities and does not have any such cases pending on Him. Shri Baba too, based on His general teachings, appears to be dealing mostly with people in Pravrutti. However His tests are so severe that they can only be justified for the path of Nivrutti.

Even if these cases of abuse or murder are treated as tests of Shri Sai for His devotees, how can one justify the abuse of young children who are too young to either gain any knowledge or to understand that they are being subjected to spiritual tests? Suppose those souls were sinners and had to undergo suffering or abuse in this life. Then they could have got abused by anyone or died at the hands of anyone else. Such incidents are common in the world. What is the necessity that they had to come to Shri Baba just to exhaust their karma, which could have been done by anyone else?

The identification of a human incarnation becomes extremely complicated, if not impossible in the case of a personality like Shri Baba. From the point of a common ignorant man Shri Baba can either be an incarnation of a demon like Ravana or an incarnation of God. Ravana showed many fantastic miracles, he was also a scholar of the scriptures. But his personal behavior was extremely negative. He had sexually abused innocent people like Vedavati, kidnapped Sita, killed innocent people and sages etc. The only thing that could separate Shri Baba from Ravana would be Divine knowledge. However we find that Shri Baba does not focus much on knowledge. We find many other ordinary teachers of Vedas, who preach more extensively than Shri Baba.

How then can we distinguish between the two? If Shri Baba had preached extraordinary Divine knowledge like Yourself, then we can argue that He is God based on this characteristic. Once we have thus established that He is God, we can further say that since He is God, He is above dharma. Then all His cases of abuse, murder can be neglected. But when there is no characteristic in a personality like Him that would doubtlessly identify Him as God, how can the rules of dharma be neglected?

Whenever a teacher subjects the student to a test, he always first gives the knowledge of the appropriate level to the student and then tests him only at that level. Thus the Satguru who has subjected the devotees to the most severe test has also earlier given the devotees the highest knowledge, which will enable the student to pass the test. How can the teacher give the knowledge of the first standard level and subject the student to a test of Ph.D. level?

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Outright defenders of sexual abuse by Sathya Sai Baba

Posted by robertpriddy on June 17, 2008

Members of the Sathya Sai Organization, including some office-bearers, have circulated to many devotees a printed version of a truly abject rationalization of homosexual abuses on boys and young men of the crudest sort by Sathya Sai Baba.

The document is still found on the web, posted there years ago by a devotee – Ram Das Awle – who relates that he was inspired and personally blessed at darsan by Sathya Sai Baba to publish his thoughts! See here (

That the International Sathya Sai Organisation has not once refuted this disgusting and outrageous ‘explanation’ of why Sathya Sai Baba sexually abuses young males is a major blot on its reputation, – already in question for a long list of reasons, not least unaccountability to anyone but Sathya Sai Baba and complete failure to exercise duty of care and mandatory reporting to the public and prospective young male visitors to the ashrams.

Evidence from many quarters through many years has been available accusing Sai Baba in most credible ways, showing complete acquaintance with the ashram, interviews and the way Sai Baba operates to groom and seduce youth.

The US devotee Bon Giovanni – an unconcerned apologist for Sai Baba’s trickeries and other misdemeanours – posted the article at “SAI BABA and SEX: A Clear View” by Ram Das Awle, who accepts that sexual abuses occur and then tries to fit the facts onto the Procrustean bed of total belief that Sathya Sai Baba is God and has inscrutable divine reasons and a right to do what he thinks fit for a follower to experience, whatever the perversion or vile act by our ‘merely human’ standards (the anal rape of minors included).

Awle admits that sexual interventions by Sathya Sai Baba are a fact and he further supports and ‘explains’ various of the sexual perversions for which he stands accused as ‘spiritual healing’ and control of sexual urges! He justifies this at length too! This even evidently convinces others who defend Sai Baba in every possible way by attacking all alleging victims along with all other critics of Sathya Sai Baba. One such miscreant has declared he believed Sathya Sai Baba to be a sexual abuser – for several years – while he poured out web pages to defend the same abuser! [see the evidence here: ] His constant contrived spin tried to show the critics in the worst possible light, going to any length to assassinate their character in an unending array of ways that lawyers in three countries have opined as highly libellous, defamatory and actionable. Because he just looked too ridiculous and immoral defending the sex abuser on a daily basis, this fanatic grasped the first opportunity to flip flop – when a case by Alaya Rahm against the US Sathya Sai leaders had to be withdrawn because it transpired that there was no incorporated organization to sue. Despite that, Alaya Rahm maintains every word he has testified against Sathya Sai Baba, as do his parents!

Ram Das Awle is indeed a person of what he himself claims is “fervid imagination”! His views are allegedly largely obtained from a pamphlet circulated by ‘The Kundalini Foundation for Self-Realisation’, New Delhi, founded by a certain Dr. Joshua Stone. Awle is a dyed-in-the-wool ‘true believer’, see #awfulawle

Having raised the defense of sexually perverse abuses to the level of pseudo-theology, Ram Das Awle admits his acceptance of the sex abuse allegations and natural confusion but then tells how he thinks he was inspired to surmount it by his “fervid imagination”. Very apt!

That any of this could be taken seriously by so many followers as it evidently is would support the belief that – according to fundamentalist Hindu beliefs – we are indeed in the Dark Age of Kali in which immorality reigns. If this were so, then the presence of full-blown pedophile Divine Incarnation (‘Purna’ Avatar) whose (sex) Life is his Message would fit nicely! Awle’s self-admitted “imaginative fervour” is nothing more or less than that… imagination. It is a classic example of the extremes of confused thinking Sai devotees can and do descend to when their faith in him is challenged by the awful facts.

Gerald Joe Moreno: The most active and widely publicised defender on the Internet of Sathya Sai Baba and all connected with him – and of almost whatever they say – is a middle-aged single man living in Las Cruces (New Mexico). Moreno is in denial about everything negative about it all, and according to law he was sexually molested by Sai Baba (the details are described by him – ‘oiling in private on the lower stomach’ (a typical kind of euphemism for oiling/massaging of the genitals). The extent of Moreno’s depredations and their cranky – often low-minded – nature are very considerable. He attacks and tries in all ways he can possibly contrive to assassinate the characters of all critics of Sathya Sai Baba (at least 100 are treated thus) and he also does the same to those who criticize or testify against the convicted life-serving rapist and murderer, Swami Premananda of Tiruvannamalai, ‘Amma the ‘hugging mother’ (Mata Amritanandamayi – née Sudhamani – of Kerala) and other Indian gurus who are under suspicion of sexual crimes. Here are links to some of the pages that have been written by various authors who have been attacked by Moreno.

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