Sai Baba and inanimate cloth objects come to life?

master and willing credulous servant, John Hislop, Phd

The “literally incredible case of the weeping saris”: Sathya Sai Baba has proclaimed – and is hailed as such – that he is the only (and fullest possible) reincarnation of Vishnu, Rama and  Krishna here today. Among the supposed evidence for this a somewhat bottomless pit of mythological and fantastic stories are presented about him. Among the most fanciful and incredible (except to the credulous Sai follower, which I never was to any such degree) is found in the interviews of January 1968 taped by Dr. John Hislop. That naively trusting lifelong seeker of gurus, who had gone from one to another his whole adult life, asked Sai Baba:

“Swami, something has happened here. Water is around this box. These saris will get wet. (Swami removed the cover of the box and those of us who were standing there could see that the edges of the saris were wet. The cardboard box with four saris in it was lying on a table at the Dharmakshetra in Bombay. Swami had selected 96 saris for distribution to some lady volunteers, and of the 100 brought for His inspection, four were replaced in the box to be returned later to the merchant. The table was not close to any source of water, and Hislop, several other men, and Swami had been standing there from the time the saris were examined one by one, by Swami.)

Sai: “The saris are weeping because Swami has rejected them. Now, I will take them.”

Hislop: Swami! “How could that be? Does Swami say that inanimate onjects have injured feelings and can weep?”

Sai: “Inanimate objects are also capable of feeling joy and grief. When the bridge towards Lanka was built by the monkeys so that Rama could march to Ravana’s kingdom where Sita was held captive, one last mountain peak was carried to the bridge site. But it was too late. There was no need for it. At this circumstance the mountain shed tears of anguish, and news of this was quickly taken to Rama. His compassion was great, and he sent word that the mountain should no longer sorrow, that he would surely use it on a future occasion. In the Avathara of Krishna, it was this very mountain peak, the Govadhana Peak, which the youth, Krishna, lifted on his finger to shelter the cowherds of Gokul from Indra’s deluge of rain.”

Sai Baba views this as literal truth! Click on the above image

Hislop: “Swami! This great drama of Rama and Krishna and the mountain peak has been recapitulated here in Bombay on this day before our very eyes… (etc..)

Sai: “Yes. And it is also the self-same Rama and the self-same Krishna who is here this day.”

Does this ‘animated sari’ story require comment? It certainly seems it does, if only because I have met Western devotees who actually believe it, apart from many misguided Hindu Sai-devotees. This claim is in stark conflict with other Sai Baba ‘teachings’ on the inherent differences between the various realms of beings. One often sees how Sathya Sai Baba ‘tests’ his followers by seeing just how far into blind faith he can push the credulity of followers. It seems that only those he can are given top positions, such as Dr. John Hislop, who even had some kind of Western Ph.D!   Hislop is no serious thinker, witnessed by the way he retells any fantastic claims of Sai Baba with zealous relish and senseless faith throughout his writings. He must have been a very suitably suggestible subject for hypnosis by Sai Baba, such as when he thought he saw Sai Baba’s face turn a deep blue colour when travelling in a car with him.  One would he had at least qualified for the acme of Sai Baba’s promises – the (vague, undefined promise of ‘liberation’ from the perpetual wheel of death and rebirth?  But no, despite Sai Baba’s earlier promise to him of that, we read in Hislop’s last book that he was told by Baba that he must be reborn again, even though he had seen the so-called lingam emergence many times (which Sai Baba promises qualifies all who see it to moksha/nirvana)  and even though he had worked ceaselessly to promote Sathya Sai Baba for decades! As thanks… no grace for him, but only dis-grace!

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Avatar: Sathya Sai Baba constantly claimed he was once Rama and Krishna!

Rama and Krishna

Sathya Sai Baba constantly claimed he was once Rama and Krishna!

In this claim he was very far from being alone, as there are dozens of other would-be avatars and deities in India even today and even non-Hindus – have presented themselves as Rama or Krishna reborn. Sai Baba also claimed to be the reincarnation of various other deities and personages of the past, not least Sai Baba of Shirdi (while the official Shirdi Sanasthan and various researchers refute this claim as bogus).

According to fanciful religionists, “Sri Satya Sai Baba is also considered to be the Cosmic Christ. He is so spiritually advanced that he embodies the Christ Principle, an aspect of God (the energy of love) at cosmic level.”

The former long-term US ashram resident, Mr. Alvin Drucker of the USA, later banned from the ashram gave a talk before a thousand or so foreign visitors in Prashanthi Nilayam in 1987, stating that Sathya Sai Baba had said that all who visited him on his 60th Birthday were once also with him when he was Krishna and/or when he was Rama. These ‘divine secrets’ came only from his close servitors on the Sai Central Trust, including Mr. Prasad, who told that Swami said this was also so on the 70th Birthday. Of course, the rumour spread most freely as no doubt intended. It was a great way of making people feel important and staying in his fold!

 Sathya Sai Baba supports Ramanyana and Bhagavatham myths as fact The following except from the most popular book of conversations with Sathya Sai Baba removes all doubt that he believed and propagated the historical existence of a race of veritable giants, one of which was Rama, of the existence of demons (rakshakas) and the mythical eternally young Krishna:-

from ‘Conversations…’, by John Hislop, p. 129, 130

Where are the remains of this race of giants, these demons? Considering the vast amount of discoveries by palaeontologists to date, not one giant skeleton from such a relatively recent era a few thousand years ago has been found. Meanwhile, countless dinosaur fossils from hundreds of millions of years back have been discovered. Since the origins and spread of mankind are now so well known in general outline (through DNA studies) there is all reason to doubt the veracity of Sathya Sai Baba’s ignorant claims yet again!

In Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. 3 p. 60 Sai Baba stated: “Raama was the greatest hero in history; he killed the 14,000 raakshakas (i.e. demons) led by Khara, Dhushaasana and Thrisiras, all by Himself! Every raakshasa beheld in every neighbouring raakshasa a Raama; and, in full fury, he slew the Raama and was killed in turn by his neighbour. “

Now, is this a credible claim? Hardly satisfactory to any genuine historian, scientist or person with common sense. The world will never accept such fairy stories and base superstition even though millions of the poorest uneducated peasants know no better.

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