Four Sai Baba defectors give striking testimony

Remaining devotees of Sathya Sai Baba are still either too frightened to examine the evidence or are in denial for a range of personal reasons, desires, attachments and delusions. Those who break away do not always stand forth at once, it takes time to overcome all the feelings, connections, misinterpretations and not least – for the most trusting and heartfelt devotees – the intense pain of confusion, disorientation that has been reported time and again. It takes courage to see the truth rather than cocoon oneself in a pleasant but insecure and ill-placed sense of being looked after for ever. Over 1600 persons have signed the petition, many with comments that are most insightful, though some have expressed their bitterness and utter disdain for the deceiver and abuser.

One of a family who were sexually abused by Sathya Sai Baba has signed the petition and testified briefly. No doubt his testimony will be far more detailed and hard-hitting in the coming months (he is related to Jay Narain, who is preparing to seek redress through the courts in India!

Despite all this, confused but hypocritical defenders continue to cast aspersions on those of us who have ourselves been deceived and have found it necessary to forward the cause of the abused, and of the weak and vulnerable, against the Sathya Sai Baba huger abuse of trust and abuse of truth.

FOUR OF THE SIGNERS OF THE PETITION THIS MONTH HIGHLIGHTED

Dilip Narain, Australia signed the petition on July 8. 2011.Period as a follower: 1979-1982 Position in S.S.Org: student Puttaparti college

I attended his college with my 2 brothers and was abused sexually. My father handed over thousands of dollars in cash. How could his abuse of innocent children be covered up for so long?

Jack Roper, Australia signed the petition on July 8. 2011.Period as a follower: 1982 to 2006 Position in S.S.Org: Chairperson south australia

It wasn’t the sexual abuse nor financial scams that sowed doubt several years ago it was that he broke his hip and his health deteriorated which was in contradiction to what he had always said about himself. I was totally dedicated to him until then.

Mantish Mohesowa, Mauritius signed the petition on July 11. 2011.Period as a follower: Been a follower since childhood, joined the SSO in 2010 Position in S.S.Org: Bhajan Convenor, Vice President

I was brought up attending bhajans and I was since a child very interested in everything that concerned spirituality. I am grateful to my parents though for doing their best to give me a good upbringing. No regrets. Sathya Sai Baba was for a kid like me a real wonder; his miracles, claims and experiences of devotees. I visited centers, attended bhajans, read Sai literature, and visited those people in Mauritius (there are many) who themselves said they had received boons of Sathya Sai Baba and had the same power of materialization and telepathic communication with him. My cousin gave me a video in which I saw him faking the materialisation of a lingam. I was around 13-14 years old. I decided not to believe. I read all critics. I decided not to believe. It was a test to my faith. My first trip to him was not what I expected. The business, noise, fanfare and the realisation that many of whom present there were the poor/uneducated folks around and foreigners who had very little knowledge of Hinduism left me feeling very disappointed. My mind told me that Sai Baba was God and I was the one who was not right. I went again in 2010. Seeing him for the first time in Darshan on this second trip gave me the realisation that I did not feel anything strong like I used to when I was 17 (my 1st trip). The past years had been decisive in my maturing up since the last time I went there. I started questioning myself as to why despite seeing such a flagrant cheat on video and having read many things against him, I still followed him. I realised that i was doing all this to please my surrounding and because I could not afford to lose years of “spiritual” investment. When he fell sick this year my intuition told me that all the news being given were just too beautiful to be true. I decided to read what the “opposing camp” was saying. And this was it. All what remained of my belief collapsed. His sickness was the last test. I said if he survives then it will be the greatest miracle and if he dies, I will leave. And it happened. I cried and cried. I had invested so much time and energy into it but still my adherence to truth was stronger. I have not lost faith in Spirituality itself but have left the SSO which by the way is another matter of great debate as to whether it is a “spiritual” organisation. Many have turned against me since but I feel free. I am free. Gone is the time of Sai Baba fairy tales, stupid rationalizations and the Swami knows what he is doing” mantra.

Elizabeth Alexander USA signed the petition on July 13. 2011.

If there was even ONE complaint, he should have been investigated…but there have been SO many from all over the world. Just like the Pope & the Catholic Church, Sai Baba & his protectors (who are JUST as guilty) did whatever they had to do to protect the child rapists & they have brainwashed millions with his “message” of love & peace, with promises of being “special or chosen” just from being in his very presence. And Sai Baba had NO possessions??? I’d laugh, but it is SO not funny. He stole millions in gold, silver, diamonds, & cash (illegal) from the blind faith followers, which he hid & stole the innocence & very soul of the helpless children. Not only are there massive skeletons in the closet, but also secreted in the floors, ceilings, & walls of his every room. I’ve known Isaac just about my entire life & love him dearly, but power, ego, & control over one’s destiny through mental, physical, psychological, & especially sexual domination of others, is abhorrent. Why on earth does anyone believe that one man or woman, for that matter, holds the key to their salvation! It is pure insanity, for we all have it…within ourselves! Follow the message..NOT THE MESSENGER! A wolf in sheep’s clothing is nothing but a WOLF. Sorry for the rant, but I am ANGRY & have never believed in Sai Baba, through Isaac or anyone else. PROSECUTE THESE ANIMALS, DEAD OR ALIVE!! Someone PLEASE stop the lies! Stop the insanity! Protect the children! Religion is based on one’s fear of dying & what comes afterwards & has been used as an excuse for prejudice, murder, & rape almost as long as humans have existed. VERY rarely is it used for the right reasons-to love each other & ourselves unconditionally, with no expectation of personal rewards…..or of having an audience with the great…and fake guru, Sai Baba. And why in heaven did he pull rabbits out of his skirts (aka diamonds & watches), instead of cures for cancer?? Why didn’t he make homes appear for the homeless? Make one loaf of bread into millions of loaves?? Nothing but slight of hand tricks by a homosexual pedophile. Just a child who was bullied & learned from the streets how to fool the multitudes & gain their respect…all for his own inherent needs. For those who actually profited spiritually, that is truly wonderful, but this is NO excuse for overlooking his grossly selfish & damaging sexual proclivities. NO MAN OR GOD HAS THAT RIGHT!!!

PLEASE SEE THE SAI PETITION  – disaffected may also have their say there by making a comment. Your IP or e-mail details will NOT be revealed

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(One such detractor of dissidents in denial of the truth who is now fabricating false theories about others is Dr. Om Prakash Sudrania who is writing lengthy wandering and fanciful tracts without substance or evidence… confused and falsely self-deprecating though his writings are, he will have to eat his words eventually, if only in private. He complains about anonymous postings (none made by me, actually, as my pen-name on The Telegraph is known and admitted), while he is supported by one of the many anonymous libelers (´Arjuna´) who throws out untruths and dirt about without a shred of evidence, of course, saying he/she has grounds from our conversations on the Internet to state clearly that I am a homosexual and an ´externally funded´(see the cowardice in that vagueness?). Typical of the constant harassment since 2002 by a fanatical Sai follower who has no way of answering the sex abuse charges against Sai Baba and so implies them to the critics (read either/or Gerald Moreno or his protégé the amazingly crude Lisa de Witt)! So cheap as to be laughable. Had I been homosexual, so what? It is not dishonourable among civilised people, and it does not intrinsically make one´s words any less true or more false than if one were homosexual).
Elizabeth Alexander , USA signed the petition on July 13. 2011.

Sai Baba sexual abuse reports etc. on the Sai Petition

The Public Petition for Official Investigations of Sathya Sai Baba and his Worldwide Organization has been signed by 1470 persons. In addition to the many who have published sexual abuse testimony against Sathya Sai Baba elsewhere on other websites, the reports (below) were made by signers of the petition. The petition was organized by the JuST Group and was spammed and sabotaged at first (by those trying to disrupt and deny freedom of speech to those with major grievances), until a secure new site for the petition was developed. Read the history and see the list of many other prominent signers here
Here is a significant small selection of the signers with their comments on sex abuses:-

Paul Throne, USA — Follower 1988-2000 S.S.Org: Center education coordinator: Have been to see SB 4 times, 1990, 1994, 1995-96 and 1999. Despite many positive experiences, I believe too many credible accounts of abuse now exist to pretend it isn’t real, including a young male friend of mine who told me SB fondled him. More frightening to me than the megalomaniac SB is his organization and its leaders. When the leaders refuse to hear these concerns or allow discussion of these events, it has become a complete mind-control cult.

John Purnell, Australia — Follower 1987-1994 also sexually abused by that fraud. he must be exposed

Michael Smith, USA — . I am a sexual abuse victim advocate: friends of mine have been sexually abused by Baba

Pierre Stahre — Sweden. Follower: 1990-2000  – only  know swedish male friends that was severely molested sexually by Sai Baba for many years.

David Juliano — USA . abused by Sai Baba in 1974

Marcus Martenson, — Sweden . A guy I know was sexual abused by Sai Baba

Juan de Dios Suarez — Venezuela Follower 6 years I know of two Venezuelans who were sexually abused by the False Teacher
[Conozco de dos Venezolanos que fueron abusados Sexualmente por el Falso Maestro]

Kyra Kitts — USA “I found out directly a year or so later from a friend in my local center that he’d been sexually molested by SB in his teens several times” (http://exbaba.com/articles/kyraboy.html)

Rosalia Malagelada de Neves — Venezuela. Follower: 1988 until 2001 Position in S.S.Org: Venezuela Comite I knew the two cases very close of abuse

Sandeep Shanbhag — India January 13. 2008. I have heard from my OWN friend that he was studying in Whitefield and his friend was molested by Sai Baba. it is high time that is man gets investigated and arrested…. [ADMIN NOTE: This student’s details, kept confidential, have been verified]

Anonymous ex-Student — India [ADMIN NOTE: This student’s details, kept confidential, have been verified] January 1. 2008. Follower: birth-not sure when the deception hit me. I am an ex-student who knows that what is alleged is true. From friends who were abused, and from being part of the culture which has denial written all over it. I personally had a “touch and feel” experience by Sai Baba, who massaged my genital area through my clothes with his legs for 10 minutes in a bhajan session in everyone’s presence – I understood later I was being “trialled”. Luckily, I did not “rise” to the occasion, and was deemed “unsuitable”. I chose to be anonymous because I have good friends who I would lose – I am sorry but I am being selfish – for me, the friends matter more than exposing Sai Baba. I will work very hard to ensure no one else is harmed, but in my own quiet way.

Ramesh — USA Student 1992-2000  I am an ex school student who was ‘Molested’ Please bring this mad man to justice!!!! [ADMIN NOTE: This Indian student’s details, kept confidential, have been verified]

Salim Delgado — Argentina February 1. 2005. student. I know the terrible reality behind this horrendous man who has blinded many people thought out the world. I appreciate your action for crying out the truth. Please go ahead, you don’t know how much good you make!!!

Jenni Oliver — Australia I have known members who became seriously disturbed after their involvement

Shyam Manisastry –USA Our family personally know one Indian boy who was sexually by this “Sathya Sai baba” without satyam and that boy’s own parents did not believe him. He ended up confiding the truth to his friend. Pedophiles like baba should be banned and they should face similar legal charges like anyone.

Subramanian Ganesan — USA August 4. 2004.
He tried to murder my childhood friend.

Salim Delgado — Argentina February 1. 2005. student. I know the terrible reality behind this horrendous man who has blinded many people thought out the world. I appreciate your action for crying out the truth. Please go ahead, you don’t know how much good you make!!!

Hari Dev Gautam — India . Ex Sai Baba.  I was Sai Baba Religious Devotee and became a victim very nearly. But I figure out before happening to me.

Alexis Hildebrandt — Germany Follower from birth 1987-2002
I lived in India for nine years and heard many personal accounts- there is no doubt about the truth of the allegations.

Susan Greeley — USA. Never a follower: As a therapist that has spent 15 years treating sexual abuse victims, I am so shocked that my mother is a devotee of this man. This is the first I’ve heard about these issues that have been around for decades. My mother, a woman in her early 60s, went to see Sai Baba about 7 years ago. She came back and set up shrines in her home , but she wouldn’t discuss her trip in any detail. She’s been involved with a group in Atlanta, Georgia. Her personality has really changed in the past 7 years. She appears more paranoid and depressed.

Jenni Oliver — Australia. I have known members who became seriously disturbed after their involvement

Mhairi Fox — United Kingdom I’ve been aware of Sai Baba for the last twenty-three years, and was a follower for some of that time. Back in 2000 I spent three months at the ashram. I had two group interviews but never felt anything truly spiritual in Sai Baba’s presence, only unease. Now I know why. I met many good and true spiritual seekers during my time in India, they were inspiring company and I am worried and furious for them. I lost my closest friend over this whole thing, she was the one who first alerted me to the abuse, cover-ups and dirty tricks perpetrated by Sai Baba and some of his followers. Since then I have continued to read about what’s happening, and I’ve continued to be shocked, saddened and angered. Sai Baba is a sick and dangerous man who should be brought to justice now and locked up before he can do any more damage. The lesson I’ve learned from this whole mess — I have no need of self proclaimed avatars and gurus, God is within. God is everything.

ALL BONA FIDE PETITIONERS SIGNERS HAVE FULL OPPORTUNITY TO REDRESS IF THEY HAVE BEEN MISREPRESENTED

Everyone who signs the petition has always been free to complain to the administration if they feel they have been misrepresented or their entries edited unduly. This can obviously be done by submitting any complaints under ‘Comments’..

1. Deleting bogus signatures is wholly justified. Postings and comments contrary to the petitions’ concisely stated purpose are invalid.
2. Deleting illegal, unduly defamatory abuse or pornographic content is only right and is required by some countries legal systems. All this has been done at times by the administration.
3. Some such alterations were made when a changeover from a former less secure website to the current one was made. Advance vetting of signatures – first introduced exclusively because of Sai spammers and a temporarily disabled function after changeover – was reintroduced.

Only ‘pre-programmed’ devotees would take serious notice of the attempt by the fanatical pro-Sai abuser of all Sai-dissidents – Gerald Moreno – to discredit and sabotage the Public Petition against Sathya Sai Baba’s protection from prosecution. Moreno has himself described how he was oiled “on the lower stomach” in private by Sai Baba. Hence – legally speaking – he was molested sexually.

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PLEASE SEE THE SAI PETITION AND DECIDE WHETHER TO SIGN IT

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Sathya Sai Baba – disclosure of damaging facts

An oft-repeated claim by Sathya Sai Baba, parroted by devotees, is that many kinds of unfair and undocumented accusations have been levelled against Sai Baba through the years, both by sceptics and followers who are dissatisfied or disappointed by unfulfilled expectations as to Sathya Sai Baba ‘s attention etc. This is based on Sathya Sai Baba s own pronouncements about how unfairly all good people have always been treated by their jealous contemporaries, and that he will be no exception himself.Who would be jealous of a person who is so credibly accused of serial sex abuses and who was complicit in cold-blooded murder. Dissidents are spoken of as being ‘disgruntled’ (devotees’ mindless Prashanthi-speak) because Sai Baba says they did not get what they wanted from him, but in fact they are disgusted, and rightly so!

Sai Baba’s defensiveness towards all who may leave him is seen in Sanathana Sarathi (11-92, p. 261), “The minds of the so-called devotees are turned in the wrong direction. If their desires are fulfilled, they praise Me. But, once a desire is not realised they go to the extent of even reviling me. Even while they are attempting to understand Me, they harbour doubts from head to foot. Some even leave me, when their worldly desires are not fulfilled.” He also takes the sly precaution of warning that he will have to separate “the grain from the chaff”, as if it were his own plan that devotees who cease to believe or accept him are rejected by him firstly! Why would this self-proclaimed compassionate avatar wish to do that, one asks? The answer is obvious… he is unable to control anyone who has seen through his lies, but can control only except some of those who lie at his feet in surrender.

One cannot but note that such predictions are most convenient for those who know they have something to hide that will not stand the light of day but which will probably eventually be discovered. They can then defend themselves by saying, ‘I predicted this all along’. The propensities Sathya Sai Baba has most apparently been unable to overcome, were reportedly told about to various persons by one of his earliest and closest followers who shared his bedroom for several of his post-pubescent years (the pair of them were known locally as ‘Radha and Krishna’, according to Smt. Vijaya Kumari – ‘Vijayamma‘), and it would moreover be hugely naïve to believe that he never had sexual stirrings in the normal way. He has once actually told in a discourse that the sexual instinct is the hardest of all tendencies for humans to overcome. That homosexual relations with minors are evidently quite widespread and tacitly accepted in much of India does not mean that they are openly accepted or practically legalized in the wider society, so guilt and the need to cover up must also be equally widespread.

See also:-
Sathya Sai Baba – serious child abuse