Sathya Sai Baba Deceptions Exposed

Exposing major deceits by guru Sathya Sai Baba in India, incl. murders cover-up & widely alleged sexual abuse

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How Dave Lyons realised the Sai movement is really a cult

Posted by robertpriddy on August 31, 2009

By David J. Lyons (Sai Baba follower from 1981 to 2000. Ex-President of the Center of Greater New Orleans). Date: 03-13-05

No one wants to believe that an organization he/she was an integral part of is a cult. I could not have been basking more in the glory of the avatar with such vigor, such pride, such enthusiasm as I was in those last five years, 1995-2000. Not only did I believe all the stories coming out of Puttaparthi, I actually repeated them to my colleagues, friends and relatives. The only thing I did not do was try to recruit new members for the Sathya Sai Organization. I believed that Sathya Sai Baba was calling devotees at his pleasure, at their karmic level, and, most importantly, at his omniscience. I believed that a majority of the world’s population would come to honor him as avatar before his passing in 2022. I was happy that I was one of the early ones. Such was my position and feelings and beliefs–until it all came crashing down.

From April, 2000, until early July, 2000, I was sending emails, and snail mail to those who did not have computers–all pertaining to the sexual crimes and the murders at the ashram on June 6, 1993. All I wanted was for them to take an objective look at the mounting evidence, to talk to some of the victims of Sathya Sai Baba’s sexual molestations. In this time period many were coming forward with their stories. The posting of THE FINDINGS on the Internet was the triggering mechanism for creating courage among many molested ones, and a personal hand-written letter from a teen victim, sent to all the presidents of U.S. Centers, was devastating. When I saw that most of our devotees, the majority who were from India, would not even contemplate taking even so much as a peek at anything negative regarding SSB’s criminal actions, I was astounded. The term “cult” had not entered my mind until much later in the year of 2000.

In July, 2000, Al Rahm and wife Marisa came to New Orleans for a convention. We renewed our friendship, I showed them the town, and we had heart to heart talks. There was another devotee couple here who had defected and we all had dinner together. Al had then introduced me to Glen Meloy, via email, who was forming a support group. I was happy to become part of this group as I felt like the Lone Ranger battling the likes of Michael Goldstein et al. During this time period I was gratified to hear of the resignation of Shirley Pike, who had been the president of the North Central Region of USA. We (myself and a few other devotees from the New Orleans Center) had begun making trips to St. Louis for the Memorial Day retreats when the North and South Central Regions did a combined retreat just outside of St. Louis, Missouri. When the new South Central Region was carved from the states of Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma (1997), some members of our Center still made the trip to St. Louis, and to Texas for our regular Labor Day retreat. As for as I know, I was the only Center president to resign and defect, and Shirley and Rick Raines were the only Regional presidents to resign and defect–both from the North and South Central Regions.

The impetus for this Revisited and Revised Spiritual Odyssey was the memory of Glen Meloy, who died on New Year’s Day, 2005. I had spoken to Glen for the last time just after Thanksgiving of 2004. He was in terrible pain. Glen’s contact for updates was the other worldwide leader of the Expose`, Barry Pittard. Glen and I had spoke many times since that initial contact in July, 2000. He gave his last ounce of energy and courage in a superlative effort to protect children and teens from being molested by SSB, and he was making great progress in several areas of the Exposé. Barry’s efforts have been marvelous also. It was Barry who carried the sad news to me and many other former devotees–all who had developed a network to bring justice for the crimes of SSB.

Glen Meloy was a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba for 26 years, and during that time he gave freely of his time in many categories, managing the book center for America in Tustin, California, among many other volunteered seva (service). We had long conversations about the ones who remained loyal to Sai Baba, and we were especially shocked at the complicity of Jack Hislop, who had been on the receiving end of so many hand-written letters from Sathya Sai Baba. Jack had known since the 1970s of the molestations. Jack Hislop was the most-liked of the highest-ranking devotees of the planet. I sure liked him a lot, so when I discovered he had known all along (note: he died before the big scandal broke open) I was filled with chagrin. We were incredulous about many other high-ranking office bearers here in USA not willing to look at any evidence, not willing to talk to some of the victims, not willing to admit that these sexual molestations were crimes–all because they believed that the avatar could do what he wanted to, that he was above the laws – and morality. Very soon we realized we were part of a very subtle cult, a cult of personality involving a very charismatic guru who had, at least in part and in the past, powerful paranormal attributes.

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Moreno’s deception re David Bailey Phone Conversation

Posted by robertpriddy on August 17, 2009

In another of his countless pro-Sai web pages, among those contrived to mislead [as nearly all of them against me are], the pro-Sai extremist Joe Moreno claims that ‘anti-Sai activists’ withheld the transcript of the second part of a phone conversation which David Bailey had with Thomas Wiehe of Sweden. This is entirely untrue. Both parts of the phone conversation were transcribed from the start (see here and here), and both were on-line too here and here). It seems Joe is unable to search the Internet with the ‘efficiency’ he often crows about. This is what he concocted:-

sscreenshot from Moreno's saisathyasai.com under "bailey-phone-conversation.html"

screenshot from Moreno's saisathyasai.com under "bailey-phone-conversation.html"

Obviously the phone call was recorded by Thomas Wiehe, who made the call…  who else? So no further identification was necessary. The call was made either in 1999 or 2000, but the date is immaterial.The really absurd assertion Joe makes is that it is undeniable that David Bailey prepared what he would say on the fallacious ground that the phone started ringing in his office/home. Anyone can figure that  the recording was evidently switched on by Thomas before David’s wife answered. The ring tone is what is heard when phoning to UK before the receiver is lifted. QED. But so what if David had prepared what to say. However, he is a very accomplished presenter of what he has to say, and with no eeers or ums. That he did not tell of what his students had told him for 18 months is not in the least remarkable. Such matters are extremely sensitive, and – in this case – four students were murdered in cold blood in Sai Baba’s bedroom in 1993, so Bailey had to taker all precautions to protect them. This is also one weighty reason why no student has dared to raise a court case against Sai Baba in India (which is the only nation where such a case could be taken up and also where he has the highest protection the government and judiciary can provide).

BaileysJoe talks about no ‘scintilla’ of evidence. That is because he systematically and a priori doubts each and every testimony and every fact he does not like and then he sets out to try in massive web attacks to destroy the reputation of every dissenter who speaks out about Sathya Sai Baba. However, in one thing Joe is right, the phone conversation gives massive insights into the reason for David Bailey’s disaffection – a favourite of Sai Baba who was asked to over 100 interviews

Moreno’s gross dishonesty in not admitting or removing untruths that he has posted, or apologising:
Unlike Joe Moreno, I correct mistakes I have made when they come to my attention. Though I hardly ever look into any of his depredations – they are so fanatically trite and revealingly antipathetic – I now see that he has made a big fuss over a relatively innocuous mistake I made, my having stated somewhere that David Bailey has a music website. However, I was too hasty – it was not his website, it is another David Bailey (mea culpa). Despite that I know that David is alive and well and has moved from UK to the Continent (his location is not made public because of the masses of hate mails and webs libels he suffered when he dared to speak out about what he discovered about Sarthy Sai Baba’s massive deception, having met many of those who tell of being sexually abused by Sai Baba.
See also: http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/9/David_Bailey_phone_testimony.html


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David Bailey’s ‘The Findings’ its consequences

Posted by robertpriddy on September 19, 2008

Once the top favourite foreign devotee and classical pianist David Bailey, who attended over 100 interviews with Sathya Sai Baba, was fêted for years by countless Sai devotees. He performed occasionally for the British Royal family and taught one of the princes at a private school.   However, in 1999 he learned many hidden truths about his guru and his writings soon released the floodgates for testifiers of sexual abuses.

This most decisive phase of the exposé of Sathya Sai Baba – begun in the 1970s by Tal Brooke – took off with the publication in 1999 of ‘The Findings’ by David Bailey. When he was lecturing about Sathya Sai Baba and his ‘teachings’ around the globe, David Bailey was eventually so inundated with reports from parents of abused sons and of sexual molestation from students who he taught music at Sathya Sai Baba’s colleges that he began to investigate with an open mind. His discoveries set off a chain-reaction among those who describe how they have been abused, defrauded and otherwise seriously maltreated by Sathya Sai Baba. He had already been questioned about Sathya Sai Baba and by British MI5 who were waiting for him at the airport when he returned from abroad (evidently for reasons concerning the Royal family).

David Bailey now lives in Seclusion:

Some years after he made his decisive contribution, Bailey and his wife needed rest from the abusive and defamatory reactions and threats that poured in on him from Sai devotees. They tried to drag his name through the mud as a condemned paedophile in prison and even spread the story that he hanged himself in his cell. These are the utter depths of untruthfulness and malicious rumour to which many devotees have sunk in order to preserve their false faith in Sathya Sai Baba as pure and truthful. Of course, all such allegations are totally incorrect and David Bailey is alive and well, living in France. In an e-mail of 2006 he informed me that he no longer wishes to be active in the exposure of Sathya Sai Baba. Incidentally, he is not the owner of the David Bailey music website, as I once mistakenly assumed. His reluctance to continue in the crucial role he once held in revealing the truth about Sathya Sai Baba is most understandable considering the massive consequences his involvement had (losing teaching position at a private school due to higher intervention because one of the pupils was a British royal prince). Read a transcript of a phone conversation in which Bailey tells the details The campaign of character assassination and hate against David Bailey – and against all other defectors from Sathya Sai Baba – continues on the Internet.

Not only did David Bailey investigate the sexual abuse claims and publicise them, but he was led to uncover various kinds of fraud and sheer deceit by Sai Baba (valueless synthetic stones given as ‘diamonds’ in rings etc.) and in various of his projects (especially failures in the much-trumpeted Rayalaseema Water Project).

Therefore, for all his claimed ‘divine prescience’, Sathya Sai Baba had evidently not reckoned with David Bailey and his wife Faye, whose report on his wide-ranging investigations called his bluff in grand fashion. His findings were reported widely in the media. Comdot Free Information Exchange summed it up fairly well as follows:-

“Well-regarded former disciple, musician David Bailey and his wife went public with accounts of their experiences from spending three years as two of the guru’s closest disciples. This prompted the release of yet more material from former devotees around the world.

Response to these claims from Sai Baba’s ashram appears so feeble that to many it would seem an admission of his guilt. It is said that sources close to the guru claimed that as “a living incarnation of God”, Sai Baba could do what he pleases and it is not appropriate for mortals to question his activities.

“Faye’s own son had been kissed repeatedly on his cheeks and the corners of his mouth when alone in the inner room with Sai Baba, and also sexually touched. And when it was obvious to Sai Baba that this behaviour was unwelcome, he began berating the young man in subsequent interviews with Faye, calling him ‘Mad dog! Hard hearted!’ and so on. At the time this seemed incongruous; it was only after we began travelling the world that the inconceivable and incomprehensible began to make itself clear.

When I asked various co-ordinators about these many disturbing incidents reported to me in our travels, I was told that Swami was ‘raising kundalini‘. I questioned this in my mind. If he was capable of doing anything, why did he have to physically touch the boys, especially when they were unwilling? And what about when he had them actively engage in sex to him? It seems that an ongoing, serious and untenable infringement of basic human rights is being scurrilously perpetrated, in the name of ‘divinity’.”Also see this quote: “On my last visit to Puttaparthi, a male student came and asked me for help, on behalf of some of his fellow students, because they were desperately in need of someone to stop Swami sexually abusing them. I was told how Sai Baba had for years been demanding that these particular boys have oral sex, and group sex for his pleasure. Their details matched what I had already been told so many times round the world. I asked him if this was an acceptable practice in India, and his look of horror as he denied it, spoke volumes. Then he asked me a question I couldn’t answer. ‘Sir, why do you think ex-students tried to kill him in ’93 …?'”

Though David Bailey’s investigations left various details unresolved which one would have desired to know, the main thrust of all his chief allegations have proved true, according to the flood of exposures which have since resulted and are largely available on the Internet. (See The Findings here) One need hardly add that the vehemence with which the Sathya Sai Baba cult is responding unofficially demonstrates the continuing cover-up (leaks continue to occur from those who realise the facts and leave). The vested interests among devotees who are emotionally and psychologically totally dependent on their belief in him, and especially the interests Indians who have become entirely dependent upon the Sai Baba gravy train, are of course very powerful factors. Relatively few who have put in decades of service, written adulatory books about Sai Baba,  donated large sums, and have apartments in or near his ashrams  – have the courage or strength of personality to throw off the deep-seated illusions – or take the moral stand of decency against Sathya Sai Baba’s massive deceits, fraud and abuses.

Thus the cult continues – closing in on itself in secretive self-protection – as is the case with almost every religious personality cult whose figureheads have been exposed completely. One need only mention the example of the fraudulent Swami Premananda – serving a life sentence for rape and murder (a sentence confirmed after an appeal to the Supreme Court of India. There is a long, long line of famous Indian gurus who have been exposed, many convicted of major crimes, but they still have apologists and followers!


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